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Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by Narishma »

Larrikin wrote: post #65
MBCook wrote: post #19

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I really do wonder how optimized the game is. From what I've heard (I'm waiting for a good digital foundry comparison video) it sounds like the game plays identically on the WiiU and the Switch in docked mode. The only difference is that the WiiU version runs at 720p instead of 900p. We know this started as a WiiU game, i'm wondering if this is another twilight princess where they did very little except up the resolu…

Has there ever been a game released within a year of the launch of a console that displayed the power of the console? It usually takes a few years to really get the full power of the console

Killzone Shadowfall was a launch game on the PS4 and is still one of the best looking on the system. Similarly for Risen on Xbox One.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by Pxtl »

frik wrote: post #51

The Nintendo Switch seems like a nice tablet form factor game console. I am a bit underwhelmed by their decision to compromise the usability of the right Joycon - moving the analog stick below the digital buttons is certainly bad for US/European bigger hands, bad for ergonomic reasons, an unreasonable trade off. I am underwhelmed by their decision to add no additional fan to the Dock. It's just s piece of very cheap…

Maybe im just old, but analog trigger buttons seem underused-enough that they could be sacrificed for cost. It seems to be basically only serious racing games that really celebrate them, since casual "kart" games have you flooring it all the time and non-racing games don't use them at all.

The disappointment for me is the high cost of the controllers even after sacrificing something like this.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by overcast »

Larrikin wrote: post #65
MBCook wrote: post #19

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I really do wonder how optimized the game is. From what I've heard (I'm waiting for a good digital foundry comparison video) it sounds like the game plays identically on the WiiU and the Switch in docked mode. The only difference is that the WiiU version runs at 720p instead of 900p. We know this started as a WiiU game, i'm wondering if this is another twilight princess where they did very little except up the resolu…

Has there ever been a game released within a year of the launch of a console that displayed the power of the console? It usually takes a few years to really get the full power of the console

There is a difference between maxing out the available power, and making the game work properly. You can have a less than visually impressive game, run at a solid frame rate. Then later on, have something like The Last of Us come out, and blow the doors off of even next generation stuff. Graphic fidelity isn't as important as performance. This is just a shitty port.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by agumonkey »

Panoramix wrote: post #103
nstart wrote: post #99

Just got mine. Charged and used. This thing is such a joy to use. I'll probably play with it more in mobile mode. It feels good to hold it. And yes it's underpowered on the spec sheet but at the same time, it works really well. And I'm having a lot of fun with it so for me that's the main thing really :D.

I don't understand the negativity based on technical performance. The thing is supposed to be fun to play, not bring you closer to the limits of what modern technology can achieve. Nintendo has some extremely fun games that I'd rather play very much before an extremely high performance super high HD game that ultimately falls flat.

I think it's an uncanny valley because the system is very appealing yet that tiny lack of computing power and resolution make it miss the 10/10 score. (my 2cts)

ps: I wonder if having a dock will enable Nintendo to palliate perf with future hardware extension or replacements: a "HD dock".

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by overcast »

Alreadyobsolete wrote: post #38
gdulli wrote: post #26

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I don't know how they justify selling it at the same price as the current gen consoles. You also have to pay extra for a real controller.

Are the joycons not real controllers?

Correct, they are pretty uncomfortable.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by mikeevans »

erelde wrote: post #90
eludwig wrote: post #87

Just a few quick comments on the Switch after a day of use. First, a quick digression, Nintendo seems to have gauged the launch demand pretty well. There are some other comments here regarding Target morning waits. I was 2nd on line at 6:40am in a northern NJ Target. The guy in front of me had slept in his car (!), but he seemed to be the only one that did. By 7:45 the line was 20ish people. Our Target had 25 console…

About the USB C, can you use a standard C to HDMI converter, or do you have to use the base ?

I tried it with the USB-C multiport adapter from my MacBook 12 and it didn't work.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by dstaley »

Fej wrote: post #45
dstaley wrote: post #44

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One benefit of the dock being so simple is that it should be relatively easy to design a replacement dock that doesn't suffer from those issues. I'm thinking something like Apple's iPad Dock [1]. I think the dock design they went with is more kid friendly, so if you're an adult who is going to be mindful when docking your Switch I think something more minimal would be fine. [1] https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/ima…

Currently, the only way to get HDMI out from the Switch is via Nintendo's dock. No other cables work. From what I understand, Nintendo is not planning to make a breakout cable or expand functionality in that area.

Sorry, I realize my comment was unclear. I meant the actual board in the dock is quite small and easily accessible, so removing it and placing it into a new housing should be fairly straightforward.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by Panoramix »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #110
Panoramix wrote: post #108

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I was not aware of that. Which is strange since I read more than 10 reviews, surely they would have noticed? is this your experience? All I heard was that it runs smoother than in the Wii-U even though it is not optimized for the Switch.

There's really no way that you wouldn't notice it and I've seen it mentioned in every review.

I guess it's the way I understood it. "Drops frames occasionally when there are a lot of elements moving on the screen" vs "plays poorly". Disappointing, sure, but hardly a deal breaker. I guess I'll wait a bit and judge on my own.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by M_Grey »

Razengan wrote: post #71
M_Grey wrote: post #50

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This is Nintendo... in a year or two you can buy the Switch DS!!! Now with a charging port on top, 1080P, and more battery life! I mean... assuming by then it's not clearly another WiiU or worse.

Yes, let's just make one product every 10 years and never make any incremental updates for people who like them and can afford them.

Do you really think the only option other than selling you a new full-price console every couple of years, is a decade of PS3 or the like?

Come on.

Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown

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Post by rasz_pl »

Panoramix wrote: post #128
aaron-lebo wrote: post #110

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There's really no way that you wouldn't notice it and I've seen it mentioned in every review.

I guess it's the way I understood it. "Drops frames occasionally when there are a lot of elements moving on the screen" vs "plays poorly". Disappointing, sure, but hardly a deal breaker. I guess I'll wait a bit and judge on my own.

but its the second kind, Zelda drops to 20fps in empty static scenes.
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