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Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by dotnetisnotdead »

Karunamon wrote: post #76
eropple wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Twitter wants to show the alt-left tools the door too, I'm certainly not gonna cape up for them. But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here, and it's not towards the burned Bernie bros. That alt-left doesn't have members of state-blessed media outlets (well, until recently, when cheering on pedophilia became a little too much for them) on campus tours where…

But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here The most non-snarky way I can put this is: "Citation needed". Something that is a left leaning/liberal phenomenon almost exclusively from my experiences is the propensity for shouting a statement into public, and then claiming that anyone who has the temerity to reply to their tweet with anything other than wholehearte…

Also, when I see the media going crazy over Kellyanne putting her feet on the couch to take a picture, I can definitely see one of the biggest factors in how we've lost our way.

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Post by feelix »

jsemrau wrote: post #112
arprocter wrote: post #7

Interested to see how penalizing accounts for 'repeatedly tweeting at non-followers' is going to work when most of what I see on the platform is people messaging celebs who don't follow them back

That got me banned a couple of weeks ago. I wrote an application that recommended an event to the user once he\she would tweet "I am bored". I made the mistake by giving providing a fall back once the location could not be determined. This lead to ~40 tweets with identical texts. Twitter quickly pulled out the banhammer. Not to spam, but here is a write-up if there is an interest in what and how it happened: https://…

Any chance of sharing/providing the source code of the listener bot that auto responds?

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Post by nikdaheratik »

Mendenhall wrote: post #10
arprocter wrote: post #7

Interested to see how penalizing accounts for 'repeatedly tweeting at non-followers' is going to work when most of what I see on the platform is people messaging celebs who don't follow them back

Yea thats pretty much all twitter is. I think of all the people tweeting politicians etc.

There are enough people talking to each other to make it interesting, at least for me. But the issue that most people are having is political nuts who just go around doing a search for "Donald Trump" or whoever and then abusing anyone who said anything remotely critical. Even worse are the actual white supremacists who do that or worse.

The bots are a problem as well, but they aren't what runs people off the platform.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by nikdaheratik »

moonshinefe wrote: post #117
eropple wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having concerted bombs of right-wing harassment drop on one's head for having the temerity to do something like "be a woman with political opinions" is not part of being an adult. And that's the reality of Twitter right now. This isn't nearly enough; actually showing the trackable legions of smurf-account harassers the door might be beyond Twitter's meager capabilities at the moment (after all, they only have a small…

I believe what he was getting at is as an adult, you should be able to realize that a website on the internet is just that--and have the ability to take it with a grain of salt without being highly offended / outraged. I don't think the intention was to say everyone on Twitter are adults--in fact it's the complete opposite of that. It's a platform where you can get both the best and the worst from all walks of life a…

And the point is that disagreement isn't what runs people off that platform. It's abusive behavior by large groups of people (and sometimes their bots) towards whoever they don't like.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by nikdaheratik »

strken wrote: post #118
rhizome wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If "engage" means "HA HA U SUK TRUMP UR AZZ MAKE ME A SANDWICH" then maybe Twitter isn't a good place for them.

What if engage means "I want to blow the whistle on something, can you get me in touch with a journalist?" for 0.01% of blocked messages and "u suk vote yrump" for the rest?

Well then there's email, phone, text message, snail mail, fax, carrier pigeon, whatever for that 0.01%.

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Post by DaUR »

eropple wrote: post #20
iamatworknow wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question then becomes is the necessity of having a twitter account "part of being an adult"? I'm not saying the harassment is right, mind you, and certainly doxxing and real physical threats should be treated as the criminal acts that they are, but I don't think it's something that can ever really be remedied unless the victim removes themselves from the situation. As I see it there is a sort of give and take rel…

> The question then becomes is the necessity of having a twitter account "part of being an adult"? I'm not saying the harassment is right, mind you, and certainly doxxing and real (as in tangible) physical threats should be treated as the criminal acts that they are, but I don't think it's something that can ever really be remedied unless the victim removes themselves from the situation. Oh, then we should just give…

> I'm sure that isn't a political tactic being employed intentionally against them or anything.

> Or, you know, we can fucking not do that.

> Stop normalizing evil.

Your rhetoric is very emotional, and you want to use "abuse" a s an excuse to ban people who simply disagree with you ("anti-feminists", really?). I don't think people who share your views should be given the power to control discourse[0]. It's funny that you insult the "alt-left" ("bernie bros") when many would define the alt-left as the regressive left, in other words those who want to ban people simply because they disagree, like you're trying to do.

[0]: especially since you could argue that Twitter is the #1 platform for political discourse in the US, and is therefore vital for free speech (not as a legal obligation, but moral principle).

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Post by nikdaheratik »

dotnetisnotdead wrote: post #119
Karunamon wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here The most non-snarky way I can put this is: "Citation needed". Something that is a left leaning/liberal phenomenon almost exclusively from my experiences is the propensity for shouting a statement into public, and then claiming that anyone who has the temerity to reply to their tweet with anything other than wholehearte…

I relate to this 100%. I'm a lifelong Democrat, but in the last 2 years the culture has changed so drastically, I am being pushed to the center. I'm not alone in this, and it's bad for democrats. They don't realize it just yet. The over use of "Bigot", "Racist", "Nazi", etc completely devalue the words. They take away their power. 10 years ago nobody wanted to be called a Nazi but now people laugh it off. That's dang…

IMO, it's not what the left is doing that's the problem, though I'm not a fan of it. The problem boils down to:

The repeal of campaign finance-> Lots of state legislatures going hard Republican-> New laws to limit voting rights and more gerrymandering

You can argue that one side needs to stop tone policing all you want, but the reality is that candidates are losing in states they used to win because the people who were voting for them aren't allowed to vote anymore. [edit] Most people who vote aren't listening to most liberals or whoever in their day-to-day conversations about this stuff anyway.

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by eropple »

dotnetisnotdead wrote: post #119
Karunamon wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here The most non-snarky way I can put this is: "Citation needed". Something that is a left leaning/liberal phenomenon almost exclusively from my experiences is the propensity for shouting a statement into public, and then claiming that anyone who has the temerity to reply to their tweet with anything other than wholehearte…

I relate to this 100%. I'm a lifelong Democrat, but in the last 2 years the culture has changed so drastically, I am being pushed to the center. I'm not alone in this, and it's bad for democrats. They don't realize it just yet. The over use of "Bigot", "Racist", "Nazi", etc completely devalue the words. They take away their power. 10 years ago nobody wanted to be called a Nazi but now people laugh it off. That's dang…

> When Suzy soccer mom says she wants some stricter vetting for refugees

I don't disagree with most of your post--but in the land of the real, it is very difficult to say that vetting for refugees in the United States is not already an intensely strict process. The people asserting it's not are self-described nationalists who wish to stop immigration...or are sourcing what they're saying from them. That's where the meme (in the original sense of the word, not the 4chan sense of it) comes from. Your hypothetical soccer mom is getting this from dog-whistle sources because she listens to them and can hear the frequency. In today's political climate, that is basically a lost cause. The epistemic closure is real; you're not clawing that person back. (Some of them--myself included, years back--will eventually find their way out. But you gotta want it and nothing anybody outside the bubble does or says will make it happen.) It's not a fight to turn people, and to be honest I don't think throwing good money after bad makes sense. (I advise ignoring these people entirely, not trying to argue with them or teach them because you don't have the hooks into that person that the news sources they choose to pay attention to do.

Instead, it's a fight to turn our people out. And I'd agree that picking on randoms doesn't help turnout. But one thing I'd caution about is that what you're saying is very frequently extended to everybody not merely randos. "That literal fascist is a literal fascist, he checks all the 'what is a fascist?' boxes and he's down with Richard Spencer" still needs to be said. Though I'll decry my liberal forebears' willingness to use the word to mis-describe earlier generations of Republicans. Because we are in a real bad place and the literal fascists are actually at the gates. And in the White House.

(The deeper concern, and that's why it's a turnout fight, is gerrymandering by overwhelmingly right-wing/Republican/there's-not-really-a-difference-anymore groups in order to crack and pack those who don't vote for them. But that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish...)

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by Sacho »

snissn wrote: post #94

Just got this today: Good day there! How are you today? I am a girl who just moved to live in this city! I have done a search on Twitter to look for man in our area and yeah I found your Twitter. In case you don't mind we can make friend and chat chit! Do you have snapchat? Please add me on Snapchat nick: [redacted] so we will chat and I can show you my personal photos! I don't like to chitchat here:) It's boring! Le…

That's a lot of tweets(5+). Did you get them all at the same time, or did they have some kind of randomized delay? Also uh...what's the benefit of spamming you out of Twitter and into Snapchat? Do people get $$ for views of their snapchat images, or something?

Re: Twitter Takes Aim at Anonymous Egg Accounts

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Post by nikdaheratik »

dotnetisnotdead wrote: post #59
eropple wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Twitter wants to show the alt-left tools the door too, I'm certainly not gonna cape up for them. But there is a difference of orders of magnitude in both size and cohesiveness to wrestle with here, and it's not towards the burned Bernie bros. That alt-left doesn't have members of state-blessed media outlets (well, until recently, when cheering on pedophilia became a little too much for them) on campus tours where…

You're kidding right? The right says a lot of stupid things...ok TONS of stupid things, but "left leaning media" isn't one of them. These media outlets may not be state blessed, but we have the media on our side, and we have our Jackals for sure. 99% of the media is leaning hard to the left on everything. The Milo incident is a fine example. While was repugnant and deserved it, that was an absolute media witch hunt,…

1) I don't believe what you said WRT to Bill Maher, and I don't even like him or watch his show.

2) People who don't like Milo, don't like him because he's a bully who encourages other people to doxx, harass, and otherwise target people who don't look or act the way he supposedly approves of. Also, most of what he does is just posturing for attention. If Milo found a way to make more money and get more attention doing offensive stuff for the other political "team" he would have.

3) Name one incident from the "left" on Twitter or elsewhere that stacks up to GamerGate, or the Leslie Jones harassment. It's not that they couldn't do such things, but it doesn't really fit with the way the Left likes to roll.

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