Live data from Hacker News

Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

cerebroapp.com

121–130 of 171 posts

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#121
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aaaaah, the good old "you shouldn't critize if you haven't created anything argument". Easily applied to "you can't criticize music if you haven't recorded an album" and "Why are you criticizing this movie you haven't even filmed a blockbuster". Commentaries have a valid point, with or without creation.

I disagree. I can dislike a song. If I am able to talk to the singer/musician, I won't say 'You Suck', that would be rude.

I think that you are focusing on "rudeness" too much.

This is the internet.

And this is a (mainly) hacker community -who are not known for their politeness-, and good engineering matters for hackers. (as it should) I think that this is the perfect medium for rudeness.

The whole reason people post their projects here is to get criticism of any kind. If one is disheartened because of a rude comment, one needs to grow up.

One needs to learn how to deal with comments; learn to decide on which ones to take seriously and which ones to not..

The good thing about the internet is that most of us are anonymous here. So you can not judge my comments based on my identity (or my history, e.g. what i have done). Nor you can punch me in the face for being rude or something. The thing you get in exchange is honesty (hopefully).

This is healthy. Let's embrace it, and keep politeness and politics for face-to-face meetings.

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only used 70mb in Windows. Nice to see an app like this for windows and not always something exclusively for osx.

You miscounted something, it uses 210+MB on windows: http://i.imgur.com/EXSAKEK.png

Windows 10 shows me this: http://imgur.com/vKDZU24

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#123

Some of the comments in this thread are the exact opposite thing I would expect from this community and it is shameful. It's unfortunate that the top comment is one of these which could steer some people away from reading further. As many others in this thread have pointed out, Cerebro is a pretty cool app that borrows from some core OS functionality and improves on it. Is its design 100% perfect? Maybe not. However,…

> If the app is memory hogging, not following best coding practices, or you have a cool idea of how something could be done instead share that feedback and offer better ways to do things.

In spirit i agree with you.

In practice the problem here is, to use a really crude analogy:

The Cerebro developers rented an empty mall for super cheap, then opened a single restaurant in it. Some people won't mind driving all the way there and walking through the entire thing to get to the restaurant, other people will.

The advice then in that situation is to one of these:

1. Demolish the parts of the mall that aren't used, piece by piece, while trying to not knock over the restaurant situated on the third floor, so other people can build their houses on the now free space, closer to the restaurant.

2. Abandon it and build a new restaurant in the middle of the city.

Everyone recognizes that both of these are very expensive solutions and unlikely to ever be implemented, so you end up with two kind of people.

1. Those who shrug and walk away saying nothing.

2. Those who go, with various amounts of emphasis: "Aw, i wish you hadn't done that."

There is no happy middle ground possible here, sadly.

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You miscounted something, it uses 210+MB on windows: http://i.imgur.com/EXSAKEK.png

Windows 10 shows me this: http://imgur.com/vKDZU24

Any Electron app, like Chrome, will run at least 3 processes, Cerebro even runs 5. However the default windows task manager doesn't group processes by child/parent relationships so the other processes Cerebro uses are further down in your view.

To get the total you need to find all of them and sum them up. That might be easier in the Details tab. Or use Process Explorer instead.

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 10 shows me this: http://imgur.com/vKDZU24

Any Electron app, like Chrome, will run at least 3 processes, Cerebro even runs 5. However the default windows task manager doesn't group processes by child/parent relationships so the other processes Cerebro uses are further down in your view. To get the total you need to find all of them and sum them up. That might be easier in the Details tab. Or use Process Explorer instead.

Ah, thanks. Adding those up comes to around 170 MB.

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#126
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once was a fan of electron until I ran some apps on a low end surface with little disk space. Something like react native for the desktop could become a huge success.

There is work being done on Universal Windows Platform support for React Native, which will let you publish not just on Windows 10 and Windows 10 Mobile but on the Xbox One.

Btw. do you guys know that MSFT building next version of Skype with React Native? Mindblowing, innit?

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#127
post #78
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Choosing Electron kinda by definition means that you as a developer chose the easy way when developing the app and decided to compromise on user experience, performance and disk space to save a bit of time. It's an antithesis of "working hard".

What a smug reply. Developer community is quite harsh. Shipping is most of the times better than sitting on an armchair and delivering sermons.

I'd go one step further and posit that the majority of people who shit on other people's work probably have never shipped anything themselves.

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#128
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, maybe we should choose our projects based on time we have for them, instead of using a hammer to drive in a screw?

Or maybe the app works great and nobody cares what technology you wish had been used.

We have already established this is not the case.

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#129

Some of the comments in this thread are the exact opposite thing I would expect from this community and it is shameful. It's unfortunate that the top comment is one of these which could steer some people away from reading further. As many others in this thread have pointed out, Cerebro is a pretty cool app that borrows from some core OS functionality and improves on it. Is its design 100% perfect? Maybe not. However,…

I truly wish that most communities of practice were more like what you describe. But, it's also naive to expect that experts won't criticize, sometimes even harshly.

For instance, I am currently learning data science from the ground up (i.e. reading the fundamental mathematical literature) and doing it outside of a university program. It is disheartening to post a question, to say Cross Validated, and have a few critical commenters almost laugh the motivation out of me. So, I can emphasize.

However, on the other hand, as a software practitioner, I am often on the other side of the fence. In this field in particular it seems like there are often amateurs who decide to jump in with an arrogant disrespect for the existing community knowledge and practices. I think it's because software is very cool now (like statistics, etc.). And, in software it's easy to find some code and libraries and 'wire them together' in crude ways.

Note, I am not implying that this is the case here! I haven't even looked at the software nor read most of the comments. But, since I often see this happening, I know that such comments are expected. I'm only commenting on your perspective.

I am not against autodidacts. In fact, I am one myself. And, I encourage it. But, all autodidacts should expect and embrace criticism from the community. It sucks to take it, because often commenters are often overly harsh and blunt. But, in defense of them, every community will be like this, to some degree. And, it's expected. Many of these practitioners have spent their life doing it, and they have some right to be critical, don't they?

Re: Cerebro App – Open-source productivity booster with a brain

#130
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. I can dislike a song. If I am able to talk to the singer/musician, I won't say 'You Suck', that would be rude.

I think that you are focusing on "rudeness" too much. This is the internet. And this is a (mainly) hacker community -who are not known for their politeness-, and good engineering matters for hackers. (as it should) I think that this is the perfect medium for rudeness. The whole reason people post their projects here is to get criticism of any kind. If one is disheartened because of a rude comment, one needs to grow u…

> And this is a (mainly) hacker community -who are not known for their politeness-

And you hold this up as an ideal rather than something we can improve upon? Tone matters.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face-to-face conversation. Avoid gratuitous negativity.

If you want to act differently than in real life, this is not the site.

Post reply on HN