how about use 3-step auth? 1. you input your username google send back an msg/pic which you saved in google at last login confirm then goes to step 2 2. you input password 3. google ask you input auth code
The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
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Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
#122Why would you need to sign in if you're already in your gmail? Not to say there's anything obviously wrong, one could easily go there. It does point out a major problem. Email used to be text only. Then we added attachments that needed to be saved as a file and read with whatever app. Then we went to automatically displaying attached images and having live HTML links. All of these things we do for convenience make th…
Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
#123I'm not advocating against web-based mail readers, simply because it's not always possible or practical to use external ones. But it seems security is harder to implement because everything is "made of the same parts", i.e. a web-based mail displayed in a web-based application, opening links in the same (browser) window.
Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
#124The aim of EV certificates is to reduce such risks and highlight to the user the legitimacy of such websites. HTTPS alone only provides encryption. Google doesn't use EV anywhere but I feel it should on login pages especially given it is a high phishing target.
EV certificates don't work. You're relying on the user to spot a change in the address bar, which is no different than relying on the user to notice that the domain is not "gmail.com". HTTPS is meant for preventing MITM attacks, but it isn't meant to validate the identity of the entity you're speaking to; even though some people try doing that, it's just a game of pretend.
Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
#125How is your experience?
I understood that I can register specific machines not to use 2-factor, so if I loose my phone I still can login in. Anything else to consider?
Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
#126I reported this a back in March 2016, and Google said it was not an issue. Analysed whole attack here: https://gist.github.com/timruffles/5c76d2b61c88188e77f6 This was the response I got: > The address bar remains one of the few trusted UI components of the browsers and is the only one that can be relied upon as to what origin are the users currently visiting. If the users pay no attention to the address bar, phishin…
Ah the classic "ugh. we don't want to have to fix this, so here are some bullshit technical reasons why it's impossible and a bad idea".
Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, Google TFA doesn't ask you to type your number (and others only some digits) so it probably would rise a red flag big enough to "awake you" from auto-pilot, I hope.
I assume you're using the type of 2FA where this is not the case. We are discussing the type of 2FA where Google does ask you to enter your number. I.e, TOTP. When I log into Google, it asks me to type my 2FA number in.
Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
#128Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh my god that's awful, what's the point of making it so counterintuitive?? I'll never understand the motivation of companies that roll their own 2FA instead of just using TOTP or Authy.
It was probably the worst way they could have implemented 2FA; we're still vulnerable to a MITM attack. One of the more annoying things is that the codes are sent from a random 386 number. Out of the 7+ texts I've received thus far, only 2 were from the same number. Apparently the company they're using is named https://duo.com/
Re: The closest I've ever come to falling for a Gmail phishing attack
#130I reported this a back in March 2016, and Google said it was not an issue. Analysed whole attack here: https://gist.github.com/timruffles/5c76d2b61c88188e77f6 This was the response I got: > The address bar remains one of the few trusted UI components of the browsers and is the only one that can be relied upon as to what origin are the users currently visiting. If the users pay no attention to the address bar, phishin…
Why is data:text/html even valid or rendered to the page in the first place? I'm having trouble coming up with a valid usecase for this