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Long-term stress erodes memory

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Re: Long-term stress erodes memory

#122
A hidden source of stress can be a single individual (or two) who causes you ongoing low levels of stress, without you realizing how big a toll it's really taking on you.

I've had it happen, wherein I wonder why I'm feeling anxious, angry, or otherwise. Then, I step back and recognize how a particular person is treating me and realize that a) it's simply wrong/unfair and b) I'm allowing it to happen and allowing it to get to me.

It doesn't mean it's malicious or intentional, but it's no less affecting.

I'd encourage everyone to step back once in a while and objectively consider their relationships, then tweak, manage, or dispose as necessary.

Re: Long-term stress erodes memory

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By the far, the most stressful thing I've ever done is stay with my dad while he died of cancer. For the last two weeks of his life, I stayed at the long-term care facility he was at. I put all my client's projects on hold so I could be with him. I stayed perhaps 18 or more hours of each day. I slept in the chair next to his bed. I did my best to take care of what he needed. When he was in pain I would go out into th…

Thanks for your story - I lost my dad just over a month ago after years in care for an illness which was drawn out over 7 years from his late 50's. Throughout this period I also was very aware of losing my ability to concentrate, as well as my ability to really see much meaning anything around me. His death in a sense has been a relief after so much time and pain, but, I feel it will be a long time until things return for me mentally. Thanks again for sharing.

Re: Long-term stress erodes memory

#125

A lot of folks are focusing on the title, but I think this is the most interesting part: > When they gave the mice a chemical that inhibited inflammation, neither the brain-cell problem nor the depressive symptoms went away. But the memory loss and inflammatory macrophages did disappear. >And that led them to conclude that the post-stress memory trouble is directly linked to inflammation — and the immune system — rat…

To me, it feels like inflammation is the new cholesterol.

Ah, cholesterol plaques in arteries are in fact the ghost of inflammation past, and specifically macrophage-mediated inflammation. In medicine this is far from a departure from the prevailing hypothesis -- it is a consolidation of multiple lines of evidence.

Re: Long-term stress erodes memory

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> We had a hospital stay before the birth, emergency c-section (the cord was around my son's neck), hospital stay after the birth, and about 2 weeks of him staying in the neonatal ICU. I think the bill came to around $30,000 (covered by insurance), and I think we paid a couple of $20 copays. If you that's the case and you hadn't already hit a larger yearly out-of-pocket-max through other bills, then your insurance is…

My wife actually handled the bills and tends to have a better memory for this stuff than I do. There was a stress-related stay in the hospital for her for several days with a $250 copay, around late January. Then the whole birth+surgery+NICU+breast pump rental was judged as one incident, with a $250 copay. Individual doctor visits are $20. Hospital stays are $250. Medication is heavily subsidized, and most of it that…

> I'm positive that we fall under the "uncommonly good" category.

For comparison, my wife and I are on a marketplace plan, and out of a total of $60k in expenses for our newborn daughter, we were responsible for ~$12k.

We want to have more children, but I would move from the US to a first world country to do so.

Re: Long-term stress erodes memory

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> avoid those thoughts Avoiding anything is always the worst option. Get some professional help on how to deal with the thoughts.

I'm almost certain he meant stave off the depression rather than "avoid" like you are reading it. Staying busy, staying in a routine, can help keep people from getting down. Telling people to "get help" is really frustrating since the help seldom helps. It's just a blow-off conversation-ender. Don't assume they aren't getting help, don't assume that someone suffering an episode can't fix it on their own given time.

This was one of the main takeaways from a delightful interview about depression with Peter Sagal (https://www.apmpodcasts.org/thwod/2016/12/peter-sagal-opens-...)

"Avoiders" who push themselves into social situations and work they care about will fare better than ruminators.

Re: Long-term stress erodes memory

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> It boggles my mind that we consider the US a first-world country when I read things like this. We had a hospital stay before the birth, emergency c-section (the cord was around my son's neck), hospital stay after the birth, and about 2 weeks of him staying in the neonatal ICU. I think the bill came to around $30,000 (covered by insurance), and I think we paid a couple of $20 copays. > And the leaving the house/car…

> We had a hospital stay before the birth, emergency c-section (the cord was around my son's neck), hospital stay after the birth, and about 2 weeks of him staying in the neonatal ICU. I think the bill came to around $30,000 (covered by insurance), and I think we paid a couple of $20 copays. If you that's the case and you hadn't already hit a larger yearly out-of-pocket-max through other bills, then your insurance is…

Medical billing in the US is a nightmare. Even if an insurance looks very good on paper, the entire health industry finds ways to screw the patients. Claims are rejected that should've been covered and it requires endless forms and phone calls (and the phone calls always have long wait times) to correct the issue. It's all a big mess.

Re: Long-term stress erodes memory

#129

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I find getting too little sleep very stressful. I'm required to keep doing the same things, but less able to handle those demands. When I don't get enough sleep, I've got worse health, constant headaches, and neck aches. It's its own stressor, as well as having separate negative effects.

Yes, but that's a specific physical stressor, resulting in mental stress. It's not what is being examined in the article and modeled in the experiment.

That doesn't change the fact that lack of sleep is a stressor. I was replying to your statement:

> "I don't think they are differentiating between stress, that this study discusses, from lack of sleep, which also affects memory."

Re: Long-term stress erodes memory

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Interesting. This immediately put me in mind of the birth of my own child. While no where near as bad as you describe, my short term memory did kind of go to crap after she was born. I blame it mostly on sleep deprivation, which is a kind of stress, I suppose.

I'm having first child in few months. I'm stressed out as it is, can't even imagine what will happen when he is born. Even worse, I'm working from home.

You need to get yourself a place to work outside of home.
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