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Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by H4CK3RM4N »

$1499 (minimum surface-book pricing) Surface - "6th generation core i5"(no mention of clock speed), 128GB SSD, 8GB ram(no mention of speed), Touch Screen, Whatever the fuck they call their shitty excuse to build a facial recognition database MacBook Pro - 2GHz i5, 256GB SSD, 8GB 1866MHz RAM, Intel Iris 540 graphics (at least twice as many GFLOPS as the HD graphics), trackpad w/force touch and good drivers, unlock w/ Apple Watch.

1999(highest price before MacBooks go 15 inch, for a bit less you can sacrifice 256GB storage and get a dGPU on the Surface)

Surface - "6th generation core i5"(no mention of clock speed), 256GB SSD, 8GB ram(no mention of speed), Touch Screen, Whatever the fuck they call their shitty excuse to build a facial recognition database Seriously, literally the only thing to change for this model appears to be the SSD.

MacBook Pro - 2.9GHz i5, 512GB SSD, 8GB 2133MHz RAM, Intel Iris 550 graphics (at least twice as many GFLOPS as the HD graphics), trackpad w/force touch and good drivers, unlock w/ Apple Watch, touch bar and Touch ID(w/their secure enclave so the NSA can't log your fingerprint)

After that it just becomes unfair because the MacBooks become 15 inch and their dGPU has 2GB memory instead of the Surface's 1GB(which is the only actual spec I can find on the surfaces graphics)

Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by H4CK3RM4N »

$1499 (minimum surface-book pricing) Surface - "6th generation core i5"(no mention of clock speed), 128GB SSD, 8GB ram(no mention of speed), Touch Screen, Whatever the fuck they call their shitty excuse to build a facial recognition database MacBook Pro - 2GHz i5, 256GB SSD, 8GB 1866MHz RAM, Intel Iris 540 graphics (at least twice as many GFLOPS as the HD graphics), trackpad w/force touch and good drivers, unlock w/ Apple Watch.

1999(highest price before MacBooks go 15 inch, for a bit less you can sacrifice 256GB storage and get a dGPU on the Surface)

Surface - "6th generation core i5"(no mention of clock speed), 256GB SSD, 8GB ram(no mention of speed), Touch Screen, Whatever the fuck they call their shitty excuse to build a facial recognition database Seriously, literally the only thing to change for this model appears to be the SSD.

MacBook Pro - 2.9GHz i5, 512GB SSD, 8GB 2133MHz RAM, Intel Iris 550 graphics (at least twice as many GFLOPS as the HD graphics), trackpad w/force touch and good drivers, unlock w/ Apple Watch, touch bar and Touch ID(w/their secure enclave so the NSA can't log your fingerprint)

After that it just becomes unfair because the MacBooks become 15 inch and their dGPU has 2GB memory instead of the Surface's 1GB(which is the only actual spec I can find on the surfaces graphics)

Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by H4CK3RM4N »

blakesterz wrote: post #105
hartator wrote: post #56

I think it's interesting they don't mention Linux subsystem for Windows 10. As a developer, MacOS CLI was the biggest advantage over Windows. Now, you have the full Ubuntu CLI at your fingertip including apt-get install. No VM. It's a big selling point.

Is there a good terminal application with TABS for Win 10?

I don't think so. Your best bet may well be to set up an X server and run a Linux terminal program.

Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by reboog711 »

vaishaksuresh wrote: post #63
izacus wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, you kinda pegged your fate and future to Apple by choosing to worked into their locked ecosystem right? It's not like it was an accidental choice, you knew that you'll have to buy whatever Apple serves you in whatever form they want as long as you want to service that platform.

Last I build a windows phone app, which was ~3 years ago, I needed windows running on my Mac. With a mac I can build for iOS, Android and WinPhone. With a Windows box, I cannot build iOS apps. I don't know what is more locked.

4-5 years ago when I was building AIR mobile apps; you could build iOS apps on Windows.

You can do everything you could do on a Mac except upload the final build to the iOS app store.

To my knowledge there is no way to use native Apple tools to build iOS apps on Windows; but I haven't kept up with the tech.

Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by ddmf »

mntmn wrote: post #40
lostgame wrote: post #11

Unfortunately, Apple's done such a good job of keeping me locked to their software ecosystem I cannot consider this, though I vastly prefer the Surface hardware. Even if I wasn't an iOS developer, my other two jobs are Audio Production/editing and Video Production/editing. While I could almost happily toss Final Cut out the window (we all know what a disaster the FCP7 -> FCPX transition was, and my friends in the ind…

Have you looked at Bitwig Studio? I recently switched to it from years of Logic use and I actually like it more, even on Linux (it runs on Win/Mac/Linux).

Second for Bitwig - I came from using Cubase (since '91 on an Atari) - and while it was a bit of a change, my workflow is much improved.

Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by lostgame »

mntmn wrote: post #40
lostgame wrote: post #11

Unfortunately, Apple's done such a good job of keeping me locked to their software ecosystem I cannot consider this, though I vastly prefer the Surface hardware. Even if I wasn't an iOS developer, my other two jobs are Audio Production/editing and Video Production/editing. While I could almost happily toss Final Cut out the window (we all know what a disaster the FCP7 -> FCPX transition was, and my friends in the ind…

Have you looked at Bitwig Studio? I recently switched to it from years of Logic use and I actually like it more, even on Linux (it runs on Win/Mac/Linux).

I think, personally, having worked at various music software technology companies, I'd prefer to try an open-source DAW if I'm going to move away, so I can modify it myself and add/modify features/UI/UX as I see fit.

Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by cozuya »

blakesterz wrote: post #105
hartator wrote: post #56

I think it's interesting they don't mention Linux subsystem for Windows 10. As a developer, MacOS CLI was the biggest advantage over Windows. Now, you have the full Ubuntu CLI at your fingertip including apt-get install. No VM. It's a big selling point.

Is there a good terminal application with TABS for Win 10?

I'm using consoleZ, its.. ok. Console 2 seemed a little more robust, may give that a shot again. Getting things like right click context menu "console here" involves fun registry editing..

https://github.com/cbucher/console

Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by mindcrash »

wlesieutre wrote: post #30
gnaddel wrote: post #7

I have become extremely weary of buying Microsoft hardware products. I was (and am) very happy with my Surface Pro 2. Recently, my power supply broke after two years of use, perfectly fine in my book, it happens. However, Microsoft has stopped selling replacement parts after less than three years. I did not find any vendor in Germany that could still deliver. I got lucky and found _one_ seller in the UK. There are so…

For all the complaints about Apple dropping magsafe, I'm happy to finally have industry standard charging. Brick is easily replacable. Cable is easily replacable. Should work with any new computer, or even to cell phones and tablets (with a C to Lightning cable if you're an iPhone person). Apple made a similar switch from one proprietary charging connector (magsafe 1) to another proprietary connector (magsafe 2) and…

Magsafe is also easily replaced with a BreakSafe power cable from Griffin: https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-po...

Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by yannovitch »

lostgame wrote: post #126
mntmn wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you looked at Bitwig Studio? I recently switched to it from years of Logic use and I actually like it more, even on Linux (it runs on Win/Mac/Linux).

I think, personally, having worked at various music software technology companies, I'd prefer to try an open-source DAW if I'm going to move away, so I can modify it myself and add/modify features/UI/UX as I see fit.

Reaper then, even if it's not open a source, you can truly customize it!

Re: Surface Book – It’s Easy to Switch from Mac to Surface

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Post by lostgame »

bitL wrote: post #67
lostgame wrote: post #11

Unfortunately, Apple's done such a good job of keeping me locked to their software ecosystem I cannot consider this, though I vastly prefer the Surface hardware. Even if I wasn't an iOS developer, my other two jobs are Audio Production/editing and Video Production/editing. While I could almost happily toss Final Cut out the window (we all know what a disaster the FCP7 -> FCPX transition was, and my friends in the ind…

Ableton Live Suite comes with around 90GB of instruments bundled. You'd get used to UI. I oscillate between FL Studio and Live depending on genre I am working on and don't mind UI differences.

Yeah, because I feel like paying CAD $750 for that when Logic is $200 and comes with it's own library.
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