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Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by bfstein »

ryandrake wrote: post #111
mathattack wrote: post #77

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My 2 cents... It's an underutilized resource. They have career data for the highest value people in the world. Yet their technology and interface are woefully dated. The mobile search is awful, and it should be a tool that everyone uses before every meeting. The "You may know X" ability to find new contacts goes down dramatically. It would be beaten by a heuristic that just checks people who work at your current or p…

The thing that most turns me off from LinkedIn is that it leaks your browsing information to the users you are browsing, through their "who viewed my profile" feature. If I want to just brush up on a contact's background before a meeting without announcing to him that I'm stalking him, I need to log out and re-browse. Major pain in the butt.

You can turn that off.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141009022529-27827108-how-t...

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by rhizome »

kohanz wrote: post #112
jklinger410 wrote: post #104

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1. Mash Linkedin and Skype and create a Slack/Facebook For Business Competitor. 2. Integrate that with Office 360 for Business. 3. Create a much more appealing Resume/CV that either integrates well with hiring tools or competes directly with them (monster, indeed, so-on) by creating your own backend for recruiting. 4. Make it very simple to migrate your MS Live/Outlook/Skype profile to a Linkedin profile (or do it au…

Isn't (3) what they've been trying to accomplish for years? I believe what you see now in LinkedIn is their best effort at tackling that problem (and I'm not impressed).

Has their "resume" representation even changed in 5 years? I doubt they're seeing it as a problem to be tackled. Everything I know about the company says that the left hand doesn't care what the right hand is doing, and they have a lot of hands.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by vostok »

ryandrake wrote: post #114
vostok wrote: post #33

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Empirically, we see the opposite happening and compensation data on websites like Glassdoor is actually too low.

How do you know that the data on Glassdoor is too low? What is your source of truth? Anecdote? Glassdoor currently reports the average base salary for the job title "Senior Software Engineer" in SF Bay Area to be ~$130K which sounds about right to me, again, with nothing but anecdotal truth reference. If you go by what people say on HN, then of course everyone in software makes $300K a year and has millions in stock…

I know how much I am paid, how much some of my coworkers are paid, how much my company pays new grads, and what the average salary on Glassdoor is for my company. The average is lower than what new grads got in 2016.

On top of the incorrect base salary, the information on bonuses/equity is extremely limited. The average that is listed is also incorrect.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by rhizome »

bfstein wrote: post #121
ryandrake wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that most turns me off from LinkedIn is that it leaks your browsing information to the users you are browsing, through their "who viewed my profile" feature. If I want to just brush up on a contact's background before a meeting without announcing to him that I'm stalking him, I need to log out and re-browse. Major pain in the butt.

You can turn that off. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141009022529-27827108-how-t...

That they create a blog post for that rather than easily discovered UI elements (hover?!), says a lot about LinkedIn as a company.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by dclowd9901 »

pcurve wrote: post #52
Raphmedia wrote: post #47

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That's why you should lie even to forms when asked for your salary.

Let's just all put down random number between $220,000 - $275,000 as base.

This reminds me of a funny conversation I had once with a recruiter. He essentially demanded I provide him a salary number to give to a prospective company, as I had been flatly refusing to on the basis that it puts me at a disadvantage.

Eventually I threw out the highest amount I'd ever earned, about $225k a year total comp (partly tongue-in-cheek, partly to make a point), and he got really angry with me, telling me I was wasting his time and that nobody got paid that much. Needless to say, I ended any dealings with him at that point forward.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by refurb »

Fifer82 wrote: post #61

Completely unproven, but all I see this doing, is driving down wages. No one will say "I think we are not paying enough, looking at this average". It will be "We are paying far too much, lets bring ourselves inline".

I'd have to disagree. Large companies spend a lot of money on their approach to compensation. They hire outside consultants to benchmark their pay relative to competitors. I've worked at jobs where pay has gone up due to such engagements. Having this data on LinkedIn isn't going to change that process.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by notyourwork »

BlackjackCF wrote: post #87
deadmik3 wrote: post #9

It seems like the areas are really limited. Best I could find for my central Mass location was "Greater Boston Area" which really skews the numbers up (obviously cost of living in Boston is higher)

They can't even find info on SREs for the Greater LA area yet.

I'm not sure why that is surprising. Its a new product/service, I suspect over time the data will expand/mature.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by notyourwork »

pmiller2 wrote: post #50

This seems like a game everybody is wanting to get in on these days. That alone is making me wonder: why? and why now?

I think it has something to do with supply and demand of engineers both continuing to grow. The market is increasing and any growing market gives people a reason to justify trying to get in on the action.

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by sherifmansour »

While this is sort of cool for some people, I think the sad thing about a tool like this is that it's only going to encourage the wrong behaviors for a lot of people. It puts more focus on people's job titles than what they actually do. It encourages people to chase the corporate ladder, not find meaningful jobs... I'm sure it adds a lot of value to some, but some small part of me can't help but think there are thousands of people searching for their job titles today and running up to their manager asking for the next title...

Re: LinkedIn launches Salary to chart what we earn

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Post by AsyncAwait »

sherifmansour wrote: post #129

While this is sort of cool for some people, I think the sad thing about a tool like this is that it's only going to encourage the wrong behaviors for a lot of people. It puts more focus on people's job titles than what they actually do. It encourages people to chase the corporate ladder, not find meaningful jobs... I'm sure it adds a lot of value to some, but some small part of me can't help but think there are thous…

> It encourages people to chase the corporate ladder, not find meaningful jobs.

From my (arguably limited) experience, if you want a truly meaningful job, nothing beats your own business as in a corporation you'll always be subject to office politics, wishes and desires of your superiors, corporate deciding to change course etc., that's at least what I am planning to do in order for my work to be truly "meaningful".

The trouble is, you'll usually have to take a pay cut for the first couple of years and it's a greater risk than most people are willing to take.

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