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Re: Signal and Giphy

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Post by zedred » Wed, Nov 02, 2016, 11:43 PM UTC

zlatan_todoric wrote: post #113

Oh great, they are catching up with Wire ( https://wire.com/ ). Now if they would just resolve real bugs (like many people not being able to register to Signal), that would be maybe cool (but as they implemented Signal Protocol to WhatsApp and others (if we can trust code we can't see) I can't say I see any point in it). Maybe I am wrong, but it lost that appeal it had some time in past.

Wire transmits your plaintext GIF search terms to the Wire server. Their privacy policy even allows those searches to be logged. Combined with Wire's already bad e2e encryption and metadata story, I don't see how you could consider this "catching up."

Re: Signal and Giphy

#122

Post by aluhut » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 8:33 AM UTC

aluhut wrote: post #60

It makes me sad so see that they waste time on decoration like gif search but they don't have a client I can use on my PC for example.

/// Wow. Woke up to not a single new comment but massive downvotes. Very mature guys.

Re: Signal and Giphy

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Post by berdario » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 12:33 PM UTC

piotrjurkiewicz wrote: post #114

mahyarm wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost every modern desktop chat app is a web app, which is what a chrome app is. It's how something like franz is possible: http://meetfranz.com/

I all cases of 'modern desktop chat app' you are talking about, I can use it by opening its website with any modern browser. Signal is the only one which requires me to install one particular browser.

If you open them in a browser when you're offline, you won't be able to load/read your messages (yes, I know about HTML5 manifests for offline data... but that's a mess), but with Signal you can.

Moreover, being able to vet/verify the updates (which you can apparently even block altogether) before running the app is of paramount importance for a secure app like Signal.

With a run-of-the-mill webapp that's also impossible.

Again: tradeoffs. I'd prefer if Signal desktop was built on something different, but I still happily use it as is everyday.

Re: Signal and Giphy

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Post by jhasse » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 6:55 PM UTC

nickik wrote: post #22

kuschku wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EDIT: Deleted the comment because the of attacks in responses, which I can’t respond to due to "Submitting too fast". @dang: If you want users to be able to actually discuss things, allow them to respond to comments attacking them. This is a retarded system.

Basically everything in your comment is wrong. > The prebuilt Signal APK might in fact be completely malicious, you can’t verify anything. https://whispersystems.org/blog/reproducible-android/ This is already more then for all other options. > And as Signal only tries to copy the features WhatsApp and co already have Thats simply not true. WhatsApp does not support gifs, for example. Signal also has some features tha…

> Telegram is less secure by miles. Threema is less secure by yards. WhatApp is less secure by inches.

Depends. For me closed-source is a no-go for security, that's why IMHO

Signal (open client and server) > Telegram (open client) > Threema (open NaCl lib) > WhatsApp

Re: Signal and Giphy

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Post by wst_ » Tue, Nov 08, 2016, 12:33 PM UTC

newsignup wrote: post #38

wst_ wrote: post #36

Can I, as a receiver, turn off this feature? Ex : get text messages instead of gifs.

We do not always search for exact phrase so the text might not convey the emotion..

Unless the API can somehow place proper phrase instead of image. If text would be matching all images, this should work fine.