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Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by colmvp »

mirekrusin wrote: post #113
woodpanel wrote: post #49

I think they are doing the right thing. Taking pictures is a core feature of smartphone usage and smartphones took a lot of camera-marketshare. Vacations have become much more enjoyable since people don't have to carry the international sign of gullibility around their neck, the tourist's camera, that also weighs more than a phone, costs at least as much and has a terrible OS. I too think though that Kodak can't be s…

You mean vacations became nightmare since everybody is taking pictures everywhere, you can't enjoy nice views anymore easily

I went a gallery recently that actually had a rule printed near the artist biography:

"No selfie sticks"

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Post by imaginenore »

astrocat wrote: post #93

There's a missed opportunity here... this is not a smartphone, because as a phone, it will suck. It's a smartcamera, because as a point-and-shoot running Android with a cellular data connection, it will probably be quite cool. As mentioned already, Nokia tried the "photography first" smartphonecamera - it didn't fly. Because, honestly, iPhones are already top of the line smartphonecameras. The cameras are ridiculousl…

As a photographer, I want to correct you. Camera sensors are good, actually amazing for their sizes. What sucks is the lens + the sensor size combination. On most phones you get a fixed wideangle lens, some phones have two lenses, some have sucky zooms (Galaxy S4 Zoom). None of them come even close to a cheap DSLR/mirrorless with large sensors. All 100% of the phone cameras suck in low light. Yes, even the latest iPhone and Google Pixel.

Phone cameras are orders of magnitude worse than the cutting edge cameras when it comes to light sensitivity. It's just physics, there are only that many photons falling into the lens.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by [deleted] »

mirekrusin wrote: post #113
woodpanel wrote: post #49

I think they are doing the right thing. Taking pictures is a core feature of smartphone usage and smartphones took a lot of camera-marketshare. Vacations have become much more enjoyable since people don't have to carry the international sign of gullibility around their neck, the tourist's camera, that also weighs more than a phone, costs at least as much and has a terrible OS. I too think though that Kodak can't be s…

You mean vacations became nightmare since everybody is taking pictures everywhere, you can't enjoy nice views anymore easily

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Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by askafriend »

simonsarris wrote: post #5
OJFord wrote: post #4

> Edit photos anywhere with Snapseed™ The "before" and "after" images [0] are completely different photographs! [0]: http://www.kodak.com/KodakGCG/uploadedImages/Consumer/Produc...

It's a continuation of scene. I think they were attempting a panorama where half was "before" and half was after, but the subject and feel of each side of the pano is just so different, that it hardly has a comparison effect! For a true before/after, see these images: http://kp.kinsta.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/before.jpg http://kp.kinsta.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/after.jpg

The "After" looks insanely grainy to me.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by Florin_Andrei »

Paul_S wrote: post #115

The before and after pictures (mountains) are two completely different pictures. Is the trick that your photo gets substituted by a better one? That would actually be not a bad thing... Anyway, this has got nothing to do with kodak cameras whatsoever, just licensing a brand name.

It's a panoramic picture with a bar down the middle.

It confused me too, at first.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by ramgorur »

soared wrote: post #68
simonsarris wrote: post #2

Their "Specs" link at the bottom 404s! Ow. Much more info in this blog post: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/Consumer/Press_Center/KODAK_EKTRA... KODAK EKTRA Smartphone key features: * ANDROID 6.0 (Marshmallow) * Professional results from a 21MP fast focus camera sensor with F2.0, PDAF, OIS, Dual LED Flash * 13MP phase detection auto focus front-facing camera with F2.2 PDAF * Helio X20 2.3GHz Decacore processor with 3GB R…

I was pretty interested in this, but $550 seems to steep. What is that price point supposed to compete with? To low for iphone/pixel, too high for many other android phones.

I don't think 550$ is too steep, if you compare with phones like samsung s7 (670$), huwaei p9 (500$), 1plus3 (600$).

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by Sanddancer »

Endy wrote: post #91
soared wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was pretty interested in this, but $550 seems to steep. What is that price point supposed to compete with? To low for iphone/pixel, too high for many other android phones.

I think it's meant to compete with Kodak DSLR cameras.

Kodak sold their last DSLR a decade ago. Which is a shame, because they were the ones that pretty much invented the field.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by raihansaputra »

redial wrote: post #111
unicornporn wrote: post #92

Argh... For a second or two I thought to myself: perhaps this camera phone will have a lens with a sane focal length! But nope, massive wide angle at 26.5mm equiv once again. How about an actual general purpose lens at 35mm (or above 35mm) equiv for once? Some of the older iPhones were around 33mm if i recall things correctly, but all the (one lens) iPhones that now supports shooting DNG are stuck with a ~28mm lens.…

The second camera on the iPhone 7 Plus is ~58mm I believe, but it lacks OIS and the lens is a slower f2.8.

Why no OIS? It should be very useful considering the longer focal length and smaller maximum aperture.. The slower lens is understandable though.

Re: Kodak Ektra

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Post by raihansaputra »

redial wrote: post #111
unicornporn wrote: post #92

Argh... For a second or two I thought to myself: perhaps this camera phone will have a lens with a sane focal length! But nope, massive wide angle at 26.5mm equiv once again. How about an actual general purpose lens at 35mm (or above 35mm) equiv for once? Some of the older iPhones were around 33mm if i recall things correctly, but all the (one lens) iPhones that now supports shooting DNG are stuck with a ~28mm lens.…

The second camera on the iPhone 7 Plus is ~58mm I believe, but it lacks OIS and the lens is a slower f2.8.

Why no OIS? It should be very useful considering the longer focal length and smaller maximum aperture.. The slower lens is understandable though.
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