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Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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The policy wasn't universally mocked. Maybe you're in some specific subcommunity, but browse around a little. The opinion I heard most was that the policy is understandable (there is such a thing as advertiser-unfriendly content) but people want more transparency from YouTube so they can work the system effectively.

That's true, but the point that many made (and is correct) is that many forms of content cannot be advertised upon under the new policy. In fact, depending upon how YouTube interprets the policy, they can probably block monetization on any video they want, and still claim to be merely enforcing the policy. Finally, it's quite unlikely that this policy will be implemented fairly. If you want evidence, merely know that…

What do they gain from removing advertising from any video? Any money you make is money they make.

Another thing you need to realize is that this is all automated, they don't come and manually remove monetization from your video. Yes, the algorithm could potentially be wonky, but again, it's in their best interest for it to be good.

Everything that has been spouted so far has been senseless propaganda and none of it is backed by any actual facts.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

#122

I would love the ability to leave a video playing on my phone when I turn the screen off. I often will listen to a song but as soon as the app minimizes or the phone goes to sleep mode, it stops.

The app doesn't allow that, but if your browse youtube trough Firefox, you can do it.

add

  &player=html5
to the end of the YouTube url in Firefox too to get a stutter-free playback of audio (and I suspect better battery life too.)

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true, but the point that many made (and is correct) is that many forms of content cannot be advertised upon under the new policy. In fact, depending upon how YouTube interprets the policy, they can probably block monetization on any video they want, and still claim to be merely enforcing the policy. Finally, it's quite unlikely that this policy will be implemented fairly. If you want evidence, merely know that…

What do they gain from removing advertising from any video? Any money you make is money they make. Another thing you need to realize is that this is all automated, they don't come and manually remove monetization from your video. Yes, the algorithm could potentially be wonky, but again, it's in their best interest for it to be good. Everything that has been spouted so far has been senseless propaganda and none of it…

They would gain more advertisers paying them money to advertise with them.

Yes, it's automated, but there's some degree of oversight. Once again, there's no way they didn't realize that videos uploaded by one of their departments violated their monetization agreements.

And it's not senseless propaganda. It's already starting to happen, or is likely to happen.

Have you been paying attention to the YouTube scene? Like, at all?

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

#125

Google still doesn't know what it's doing with YouTube. As a longtime consumer of YouTube videos, and somebody who is actually inside of the YouTube community, I understand that. The "Advertiser Friendly" policy was universally mocked for being absurd, and it is. Then there's the indication that it was behind the inexplicable monetization drops on major channels a few months back. The YouTube team has been seen to do…

Honestly they could have just left youtube alone, let it generate ad revenue in return for hosting videos, and that's it. No need for youtube red, youtube go, "advertiser friendly" crap. Just keep running youtube and use that revenue to fund other projects.

Apparently, Google disagrees. YouTube hosts a massive amount of video, so they may be right.

I actually don't think YouTube Red was necessarily a bad idea: People get to skip ads, and play videos offline/with their phone locked. We use that money to pay creators and fund premium content.

To counter, if you want to support the creators, it's better to subscribe via Vessel or Patreon that it is to get a YouTube Red subscription...

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

#126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The app doesn't allow that, but if your browse youtube trough Firefox, you can do it.

add &player=html5 to the end of the YouTube url in Firefox too to get a stutter-free playback of audio (and I suspect better battery life too.)

Youtube has been streaming HTML5 by default for around a year now [0].

[0]: https://techcrunch.com/2015/01/27/youtube-goes-html5-flash-i...

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

#127
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do they gain from removing advertising from any video? Any money you make is money they make. Another thing you need to realize is that this is all automated, they don't come and manually remove monetization from your video. Yes, the algorithm could potentially be wonky, but again, it's in their best interest for it to be good. Everything that has been spouted so far has been senseless propaganda and none of it…

They would gain more advertisers paying them money to advertise with them. Yes, it's automated, but there's some degree of oversight. Once again, there's no way they didn't realize that videos uploaded by one of their departments violated their monetization agreements. And it's not senseless propaganda. It's already starting to happen, or is likely to happen. Have you been paying attention to the YouTube scene? Like,…

>> What do they gain from removing advertising from any video? Any money you make is money they make.

> They would gain more advertisers paying them money to advertise with them.

I don't really understand what you're saying here. Why would more advertisers pay them money if less videos had advertisements?

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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post #99

So now there's YouTube app (which doens't allow me to listen to a talk offline on an airplane or background or pay for YouTube Red), YouTube Music app (which I'm not allowed to use at all), YouTube Gaming (which has an UI and UX build by a madman). Then there's AndroidTV version of YouTube app which has severe feature limitations and probably some others as well. I don't really like to be negative, but it doesn't see…

Try youtube-dl (before the international copyright police C&D it). I'm sure there's an app wrapper that can handle intents (NewPipe? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12591466 ), and then you can open the videos in the VLC app. The owners of YouTube do not have it in their best interest to provide you with flexible, no-nonsense tools.

Wow, cheers for that.

I was looking for a youtube video downloader a week or two back, but was really struggling to find one that wasn't spamware.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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post #99

So now there's YouTube app (which doens't allow me to listen to a talk offline on an airplane or background or pay for YouTube Red), YouTube Music app (which I'm not allowed to use at all), YouTube Gaming (which has an UI and UX build by a madman). Then there's AndroidTV version of YouTube app which has severe feature limitations and probably some others as well. I don't really like to be negative, but it doesn't see…

I use Tubex to listen to YouTube in the background. It's free. Not sure about the other features.
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