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Has anyone been able to beat knees, ankle, plantar, hip, it band issues while running for a considerable amount of time? Did you do anything different to achieve that?
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I don't think you know anything about the cause and effect relationship considering you have no idea who I am let alone what is wrong with me knee. I haven't been running like that since I was in college. I wore down cartilage in my knee while running through pain I had been having for a while. I wasn't taking care of myself the way I should have been. If you take the time and care to make sure you stay healthy, 20-3…
> I don't think you know anything about the cause and effect relationship considering you have no idea who I am let alone what is wrong with me knee. Why are you getting aggressive? You have your opinion, I have my opinion, no need to snap. > People are different, bodies are different Ok, I agree. But why do you then generalize yourself few sentences before and tell us that '20-30 miles a week is nothing' and treatin…
I hope you don't think that counts as aggression, hardly. And while you are certainly entitled to your opinion, considering you know nothing about me, my running history, or my medical history, it's pertinent that people know your opinion is based on zero knowledge of the situation.
> Ok, I agree. But why do you then generalize yourself...
I was not generalizing. The conversation is about distance running. For a distance runner, 20-30 miles per week would be nothing, considering the shortest distance race is 5 miles long.
I honestly don't know how to address your last comment. You jump wildly from conclusion to conclusion and then just dismiss everything outright. And your argument isn't based on anything other than the fact that I personally got hurt, which is a dumb reason for others not to run. I don't have a great singing voice, but just because my singing hurts my ears, it doesn't mean others shouldn't sing to their hearts content. Really, the only cause-effect relationship that is clear is -> cause: be nbschulze for 25 years effect: need knee surgery. Which people can take with and do what they want. Yeah, knee surgery is a bummer, but I've enjoyed my life other than that and will continue to enjoy it.
The only stance I've taken is 'If you're going to run, make sure you take care of yourself'. I was trying to help others learn from my mistakes. If you want to argue with that, feel free. We don't caution people from buying cars just because a select few choose not to get the oil changed and ruin their cars. And you should not be caution people from running just because I personally ignored persistent and intense knee pain and damaged my knee.
> [Lee concludes his data] "don't support that more is worse. But more may not be better." [Williams concludes] 40 miles a week [...] were 26 percent less likely to develop coronary heart disease than those running just 13 miles per week. So to sum up, running is way way better than doing nothing. More than 40 miles a week may have not only diminishing returns, but negative consequences. I'd guess most people here do…
Pulling 50 miles a week currently and plan on putting 10 more to that number. I do it because my sanity needs it. Been through a very painful heartbreak after having the guts to fall in love again. Now back to square one again. But I want to get better and love again. and again.
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Seems like you discovered it already, but shin splints, knee problems, back problems, etc. are usually based in either bad shoes or bad form. There are also strengthening exercises you can do for each to make you less susceptible to them. Often times the body's limitations are caused by problems that can be fixed or worked around, allowing you to push yourself farther and harder without hurting your health.
Genuinely curious here. Can you point me to some of these strengthening exercises ?
We used a lot of this stuff in college. I don't know if it's perfect, but it's a good place to start.
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Seems like you discovered it already, but shin splints, knee problems, back problems, etc. are usually based in either bad shoes or bad form. There are also strengthening exercises you can do for each to make you less susceptible to them. Often times the body's limitations are caused by problems that can be fixed or worked around, allowing you to push yourself farther and harder without hurting your health.
> Seems like you discovered it already, but shin splints, knee problems, back problems, etc. are usually based in either bad shoes or bad form. The way you're moving the goal post surely counts as exercise as well. Running does improve health in some aspects, but it also causes significant health problems as well. Running isn't the only form of exercise.
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I don't know about that. From a pure physical health perspective (i.e. discounting convenience, cost and supposed mental health benefits), there are a bunch of exercises that are strictly superior to running. They provide all of the cardio benefits of running, but without the prevalence of joint injury when you crank up the time investment. Some good examples are swimming, biking, or using a rowing machine. I'm a big…
biking is one of the worst exercises out there. sure you save joints, but your back, neck and possibly erection will suffer instead. Got couple of colleagues/friends who have health issues exactly because of biking. and if you do road biking, depending on location, you are at mercy of car drivers on narrow roads. even if 99,9% are good and paying attention all the time, sooner or later someone won't. if you do other…
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Average height for Japan, maybe, but not really anywhere in the Western world. Average height in the Netherlands is over 6 feet, for example.
Still not closer to 5 foot tall. I don't know how or why this is still an argument. Marathon runners are not 5' tall. That's tiny. And average height in the Netherlands is right at 6'.
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You write... > Some people can handle 120 miles per week after you... > ran 80-90 miles per week [...] I'm really looking forward to knee surgery in October) Apologies for being a bit harsh but the cause-effect-relationship is crystal clear. Extensive running puts a tremendous strain on our knees. You don't need to be a doctor, scientist or professional runner to know this. And just 20-30 miles/week over a long perio…
I don't think you know anything about the cause and effect relationship considering you have no idea who I am let alone what is wrong with me knee. I haven't been running like that since I was in college. I wore down cartilage in my knee while running through pain I had been having for a while. I wasn't taking care of myself the way I should have been. If you take the time and care to make sure you stay healthy, 20-3…
Has anyone been able to beat knees, ankle, plantar, hip, it band issues while running for a considerable amount of time? Did you do anything different to achieve that?
Here are my recommendations:
Shoes -- keep experimenting until you find pairs that don't cause aches and pains. Some shoes caused knee pain in me, but others didn't. Find two different brands that work for you and use both pairs alternating between them. Each manufacturer's shoes feel a bit different and alternating you will lower the chances of overuse injury.
Form -- learn to feel like you are hitting the ground very lightly with your feet. Don't pound, land on your heels, or over stride. Thinking of contacting the ground directly under your body with your foot fall will keep you from landing too far in front and will reduce the strain on your legs.
Mileage -- limit long runs (over 5 miles) to one per week and once they get over 12 miles to once every two weeks. For most of my training I kept mileage to under 40 miles per week. Plan on taking over six months to build up to being able to run a marathon even if you start out in good shape. Build mileage slowly.
Frequency -- take days off to allow your body to recover. Most of my weeks I ran MWF about 3.5 miles each day, one day at the track doing intervals or hill training, and one long run on the weekend.
Run/Walk -- my first marathon was one of my fastest. Although the conditions were ideal that day, I also credit using Galloway's run/walk method [1]. During a race or long run I would walk through the water stops and walk for say 45 seconds to 1 minute during that time. This really gives your legs a nice break and I was surprised at how fast my overall times ended up being using this method.
Lose Weight -- I will never be a good weight for distance running (even in college as a gymnast with very low body fat I weighed about 150). However, distance running helps one lose weight and losing weight helps one with running. Being heavy greatly increases the stress on your body.
Finally, I would take aspirin or Advil for aches when needed to help keep inflammation down. Warm up before running, but don't stretch before running.
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Still not closer to 5 foot tall. I don't know how or why this is still an argument. Marathon runners are not 5' tall. That's tiny. And average height in the Netherlands is right at 6'.
Eliud Kipchoge, winner of the gold medal in Rio, is 5'5.5". That's closer to 5 feet than it is to 6.
Feyisa Lilesa is 5'9" Galen Rupp is 5'11" Mo Farah is 5'9" Bernard Lagat is 5'8" Matt Centrowitz is 5'9" Paul Chelimo is 5'11" Tamirat Tola is 5'11" Taoufik Makhloufi is 5'9" Nick Willis is 6' Evan Jager is 6'2" Mahiedine Mekhissi-Benabbad is 6'3"