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Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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This pulls something from https://cdn.turbo.run/alwsl/alwsl.sfs - what's this URL? How can anyone tell this is related to Arch Linux? Why do the readmes link to 404s? All of this seems rather unfinished. Could have polished at least the github presence a little. Also, what are the advantages compared to solution like https://github.com/RoliSoft/WSL-Distribution-Switcher , which allows selecting different distribution…

Typical of windows ecosystem and developers to sow confusion and infringe upon trademarks. Windows/Microsoft - where "X actually means Y" and always changes meaning, never for the freedom of the user, always to maintain tight control and power over computing.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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It would be nice to be able to develop "native" Linux software right from within Windows where I'm doing other things. I can see the appeal. That's why Microsoft built the Linux subsystem, I suppose.

Embrace, extend, extinguish. Although I'm guessing a few devs are in the boat with "all company PCs must be windows." Gives them an out no?

MS is seeing that it can't extinguish Linux, as well as the iPhone or iOS system. It has to adapt to it. Making it easier to develop on a Linux subsystem makes people stay on Windows, which still has stuff like Photoshop that blows away Linux alternatives. Plus of course MS Office, for which LibreOffice is a real alternative, but in some environments it's not.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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This is precisely the strategy of 'Embrace, Extend, Extinguish'. Step 1: Embrace new technology ( like Ruby, Python, Java etc ) that run on other ecosystems Step 2: Add extensions to the technology that only works in Microsoft ecosystem. For example, add new functionality to Ruby for Windows that only work on Windows Step 3: As more and more people develop software that uses these features, more people will have to s…

So what do you call it when Google adds great UX, advanced sorting and searching etc. to email, and then slowly starts making it harder to send email to Gmail accounts from non-Gmail accounts? (All in the name of eliminating spam, of course.) Or when Facebook Messenger supports XMPP up until the point where their user base is big enough and they don't have to care about interop anymore? Welcome to Software Business 1…

Companies with this behaviour regarding my work tools lower my personal life quality.

It might be Software Business 101 now, but when enough executives note that it makes you hated after a number of years, the course content might change...

(For example, what makes me vary about this case is: I expect the Linux subsystem under Windows to start working worse and worse, sometime in the future.)

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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would this allow for a SteamOS with all windows games support?

No. The linux subsystem cannot call windows programs and windows programs can't call linux programs. It's entirely seperated in that way.

WSL looks like a nice replacement for cygwin, but that's about it for me.

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Maybe I'm in the minority but I prefer keeping my GNU/Linux and Windows installations separate, with each OS on its own drive. My Linux setup is secure, free of proprietary software and under my full control. When I run tcpdump, I'm met with a clean log where every packet is one I recognize. I get to use my favorite window manager (awesomewm) and I don't have to worry about forced updates. My Windows install is quite…

This is pretty OT, but I feel like it is worth pointing out: > Boot times are very short with SSDs so restarting is not a problem. Personally - this is a question of individual preference, though - I do not mind the OS boot time itself very much (to a degree). Whether the system takes ten seconds or two minutes from reset/power-on to the login screen does not make much of a difference, to me, psychologically. But onc…

I dont care about long boot times either, it's opening chrome and all my terminals that is a pain in the ass.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Maybe I'm in the minority but I prefer keeping my GNU/Linux and Windows installations separate, with each OS on its own drive. My Linux setup is secure, free of proprietary software and under my full control. When I run tcpdump, I'm met with a clean log where every packet is one I recognize. I get to use my favorite window manager (awesomewm) and I don't have to worry about forced updates. My Windows install is quite…

This is pretty OT, but I feel like it is worth pointing out: > Boot times are very short with SSDs so restarting is not a problem. Personally - this is a question of individual preference, though - I do not mind the OS boot time itself very much (to a degree). Whether the system takes ten seconds or two minutes from reset/power-on to the login screen does not make much of a difference, to me, psychologically. But onc…

Boot times do not matter for hardware OSes. For containers and VMs, there is much better use-case for short boot times: on-demand scaling.

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Aside from the other comment where I hope I pointed out the reasoning.. The "Betray Open Source" bit. You might be right that there is some projection. I've been working on a project for quite some time now, without any pay and it is close to completion, and I more and more frequently reflect on how it should be positioned, marketed and ultimately generate some revenue so that I can actually afford my own apartment.…

I think everyone is a bit split on it. We realize how accessible and empowering open source software has made things, so there's a preference to encourage that. As a kid I was curious about Unix workstations, but knew they cost $30k and I wasn't going to get access to one unless it was a university or larger company shared with other people. Only a few years later Linux was released and today I could get a computer f…

For Web applications, there's also the Wordpress model, where you publish the source code, but make money providing hosting. Ghost and Sentry are other products that do that.

There are some desktop apps where the developers do a similar thing and provide source code and perhaps unsupported installers, but you can pay for supported binaries through the Apple App Store. Collabora are trying to monetize some of their LibreOffice work that way:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/collabora-office/id918120011...

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Maybe I'm in the minority but I prefer keeping my GNU/Linux and Windows installations separate, with each OS on its own drive. My Linux setup is secure, free of proprietary software and under my full control. When I run tcpdump, I'm met with a clean log where every packet is one I recognize. I get to use my favorite window manager (awesomewm) and I don't have to worry about forced updates. My Windows install is quite…

It would be nice to be able to develop "native" Linux software right from within Windows where I'm doing other things. I can see the appeal. That's why Microsoft built the Linux subsystem, I suppose.

I would prefer it the other way around: Having a good Windows subsystem in Linux. If however I'm to work on Windows, it's nice to know that I'll finally be able to have access to a functional shell.
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