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Re: “It's The Future”

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Look, if you're a one man shop doing a small project — do LAMP. Do perl. Do cgi. Do whatever you're comfortable with; if you try to switch to the latest silver bullet tech, you'll just get disappointed. But if you're a CTO with a startup with 10+ server-side developers and plan to hire at least as much in near future, suddenly all these dockers and microservices actually make sense. So, unless you'll start conversati…

> if you're a CTO with a startup with 10+ server-side developers and plan to hire at least as much in near future, suddenly all these dockers and microservices actually make sense As a consultant, I often get asked those kinds of questions: "Should we use X?" Whether it's programming languages, databases, operating systems, whether it's Chef vs Puppet vs Ansible vs Docker vs Whatever, it's a question that comes up a…

Exactly my point. I used two broad categories just to paint the overall picture; the fact that they "make sense" doesn't mean that they're the silver bullet.

Re: “It's The Future”

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wait. you're comparing $25 with $75. it is 3x but it's still accounting noise by any standard imaginable unless you're running a charity server for an open source project.

What about the standard of "I'm young and this is a side project I'm doing in a couple of hours at the weekends"? Of course once you have a real company with more than two customers $75 is nothing. But version 0.1 is often a tool that's only useful to you.

i'd roll that into 'charity/hobby' part.

or you just host it on an old laptop hidden in your closet.

Re: “It's The Future”

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post #83
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wait. you're comparing $25 with $75. it is 3x but it's still accounting noise by any standard imaginable unless you're running a charity server for an open source project.

What about the standard of "I'm young and this is a side project I'm doing in a couple of hours at the weekends"? Of course once you have a real company with more than two customers $75 is nothing. But version 0.1 is often a tool that's only useful to you.

Heroku has free dynos for side projects, and hobby dynos ($7/dyno/month) for slightly-less-side projects. So that original $75/m quote isn't quite right for that situation.

Re: “It's The Future”

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"-No, look into microservices. It’s the future. It’s how we do everything now. You take your monolithic app and you split it into like 12 services. One for each job you do. That seems excessive" A 100 times yes. We tried to split our monolithic Rails app into micro-services built in Go. 2 years and many fires later, we decided to abandon the project. It was mostly because the monitoring and alerting were now split in…

> You take your monolithic app and you split it into like 12 services.

The non-web world has been doing this with message queueing for about 15 years. Maybe more.

Re: “It's The Future”

#127

"-No, look into microservices. It’s the future. It’s how we do everything now. You take your monolithic app and you split it into like 12 services. One for each job you do. That seems excessive" A 100 times yes. We tried to split our monolithic Rails app into micro-services built in Go. 2 years and many fires later, we decided to abandon the project. It was mostly because the monitoring and alerting were now split in…

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Re: “It's The Future”

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Since we are seeing so many "ads" here in this discussion. Does the average HN reader prefer this type of advertising to regular adsense ads? There is no violation of privacy, no autoplaying video, they are actually relevant to the discussion and it's obvious that they are trying to sell you something. Oh and probably the most important thing si you can downvote them.

Re: “It's The Future”

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"-No, look into microservices. It’s the future. It’s how we do everything now. You take your monolithic app and you split it into like 12 services. One for each job you do. That seems excessive" A 100 times yes. We tried to split our monolithic Rails app into micro-services built in Go. 2 years and many fires later, we decided to abandon the project. It was mostly because the monitoring and alerting were now split in…

> Any positive experiences with micro-services here? Yep. We already had a feature flag system, a minimal monitoring system, and a robust alerting system in place. Microservices make our deployments much more granular. No longer do we have to roll back perfectly good changes because of bugs in unrelated parts of the codebase. Before, we had to have involved conversations about deployments, and there were many things…

How granular are your services? I've heard a lot of talk about microservices without much talk about how micro they are. As someone who's happy with the approach, would you mind giving a little context in terms of what sort of degree you've split the system down?

Re: “It's The Future”

#130

I think I will be fine, thanks. I'll stick to my shell scripts, so far they've outlived any other devops fad.

Pffft, shell scripts. In Lisp I can emulate shell scripts and all of the technologies mentioned in the article with three to five macros.
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