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Re: Machine Learning and Ketosis

#122
I don't get it, and I've really tried. I'm referring to the keto diet (though this person's approach is obviously extreme overkill). I absolutely love meat, but when I go that low on carbs, I feel like crap. And sure, some people say if I just wait 4 weeks to 6 months my body will adjust, but... why bother?

Get a calorie tracker like my fitness pal, set a goal weight loss, stick to it, and 1 lb per week will be a breeze. You don't need a fad diet. For me, meticulously paying attention to what I was putting into my body and putting a number next to it made it a no brainer. It was almost gamified at that point.

Re: Machine Learning and Ketosis

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post #122

I don't get it, and I've really tried. I'm referring to the keto diet (though this person's approach is obviously extreme overkill). I absolutely love meat, but when I go that low on carbs, I feel like crap. And sure, some people say if I just wait 4 weeks to 6 months my body will adjust, but... why bother? Get a calorie tracker like my fitness pal, set a goal weight loss, stick to it, and 1 lb per week will be a bre…

Congrats on finding on a solution that works for your body. For me, I find eating keto gives me more even energy, allows me to sleep better, keeps me from feeling hungry, and I also lose weight.

Humans are pretty diverse; perhaps certain eating patterns work better for different body chemistries.

Re: Machine Learning and Ketosis

#124
post #36

Totally anecdotal, but I want to second the recommendation of a longer fasting period. I switched to a strict-but-not-religious "no food between 7 pm and 11 am" system (with exceptions for weekends and social occasions). Within a few months I was down 15 pounds (~182 to around ~167) and had shed 4 inches off my waist (~34 to ~30). I'm about 5'10" and 41 years old. It's definitely helped with physical activity (mostly…

The only negative side effect (possibly unrelated) has been that I need a much cooler sleeping environment to be comfortable. Should that be warmer instead of cooler ? I find that my body temperature goes down when I'm fasting, so I need the room to be warmer to compensate.

You would think that less food would make me cold, but I've found the opposite. My hypothesis is that my metabolism switched from consuming carbs (with limited energy storage) to fat (with literally weeks worth of energy) and that that somehow ramps up my metabolic rate.

Re: Machine Learning and Ketosis

#125
A word of advice to those attempting a Ketogenic diet: get your blood work done on a regular basis.

If possible, get heart scans done once a year.

It's easy to slip into a sloppy version of the Ketogenic diet, at which point you're consuming lots of unhealthy fats and carbs, you triglycerides and cholesterol could shoot up and put you in shit street.

This is a strict diet.

Re: Machine Learning and Ketosis

#126
I'd love to see something like this applied to the goal of gaining muscle. I've been a twig my whole life. In college, I gained 20 lbs of "noob gains" and then tapered off severely. I've maintained that weight, but can't gain more with any reasonable effort.

Dear ddv,

You've got a potential million+ dollar business in the works. In fact, I'd quit my job to be a programmer on your team.

Re: Machine Learning and Ketosis

#127

I'd love to see something like this applied to the goal of gaining muscle. I've been a twig my whole life. In college, I gained 20 lbs of "noob gains" and then tapered off severely. I've maintained that weight, but can't gain more with any reasonable effort. Dear ddv, You've got a potential million+ dollar business in the works. In fact, I'd quit my job to be a programmer on your team.

I'm not the author of this work. I just found it earlier today and submitted it. I agree it is awesome.

Re: Machine Learning and Ketosis

#128

A word of advice to those attempting a Ketogenic diet: get your blood work done on a regular basis. If possible, get heart scans done once a year. It's easy to slip into a sloppy version of the Ketogenic diet, at which point you're consuming lots of unhealthy fats and carbs, you triglycerides and cholesterol could shoot up and put you in shit street. This is a strict diet.

What is an unhealthy fat? Also, by definition, if you are eating more than very minimal carbs, you aren't on a ketogenic diet.

Honestly, and with no sarcasm intended, I think your advice would be similarly correct for anyone considering eating bread, or white noodles/rice - get your blood work done on a regular basis, and heart scans done once a year, your triglycerides and cholesterol could shoot up and put you in shit street.

I'm willing to wager that significantly more people have cholesterol problems with rice/bread, than they do with eating meat and fat.

Re: Machine Learning and Ketosis

#129
post #91

Just for what it's worth, there are several Soylent-like meal replacement products that are explicitly formulated for ketogenesis. This could be an aid for a person who wants to try a keto diet without having to research a lot of new recipes. Biolent has a keto variant: http://biolent.ca/ Keto Chow: https://www.thebairs.net/product-category/ketochow/ Keto Fuel: http://superbodyfuel.com/shop/keto-fuel/ KetoSoy: https:…

I have only tried Keto Chow out of all of these - some of the flavors were a bit mediocre, but banana and mint chocolate were to die for.

Re: Machine Learning and Ketosis

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I had data to back this up, but there is no chance I was in caloric deficit on the keto diet. I lost lots of weight at the time. Not claiming my body violated energy conservation, but clearly this is more complex than "you don't get weight loss for free so you have to exercise more". So many folks doing the keto diet are sucking down ungodly amounts of bacon, heavy cream, etc and losing weight

They are replacing even more ungodly amounts of calories in the form of carbohydrates with that bacon/cream. Honestly, you can only eat so much bacon before you get sick of it, and your body just screams "Yuck. Stop eating. I'm full". That's not true of things like rice, noodles, bread, etc.. where for many people eat some, and your body is like, "Awesome. Bring it on" in a never ending cycle. Put another way - Satia…

I don't doubt for many that reduction in carbs amounts to reduction in calories. For others though, eating a lot, and not worrying about consequences, is a coping mechanism for how shitty the diet is. I'm super biased from my own past experience, but I was having 3000+ calorie days with minimal exercise and losing weight on keto. Open to the idea that I'm somehow wrong though :-)
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