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Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by mirchibajji »

t0pz wrote: post #59
mirimir wrote: post #39

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So far, one can still uncheck the "Allow some non-intrusive advertising" box in Filter Preferences.

aside from the fact that less than 2% of users actually do this, it is still quite arbitrary how they determine intrusive and non-intrusive. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt to improve on this. But the amount of trust given to Adblock Plus is ridiculous. They are a money-grubbing extortionist company that is in no way improving the advertising landscape at the moment. They are just taking full advantage of the…

I'm personally okay with non-annoying ads, and ABP works for me with zero effort from my end. Do you have alternative recommendations that do something similar to ABP?

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by pavel_lishin »

freehunter wrote: post #105
ocean3 wrote: post #85

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TV ad might not run arbitrary code. But its very annoying as well. Hence lots of pirating.

I'd be curious how many people pirate TV in order to skip the ads vs how many people pirate because they don't have access to the show, don't like the limited time they're able to see the show, or don't want to pay money to subscribe to the network. Seems like ads would be pretty far down the list of reasons to pirate.

I've downloaded shows before. I mostly do it for control. I don't want to have to show up at exactly 9pm to watch something; I want to be able to watch it around 7 the next day, while I'm doing dishes, then continue watching it at my desk while I'm clearing out my email, or while doing something else.

I could get a DVR, but I can't drag a DVR with me around the house as I'm doing chores.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by corobo »

biztos wrote: post #64
GoToRO wrote: post #22

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I'm not sure that ads are the only ones to blame. I think the problem is with the web nature of the... Web. I just looked at a simple Wordpress plugin that implements a Call Now feature for mobile sites ( Call Now! ) and for some reason they include a bunch of scripts from PayPal and what not. The only solution to this is to have everything on a page come from the same origin.

> have everything on a page come from the same origin Would that really be so bad? It's not like you couldn't still hook into an ad network and all that, in fact if I were building something AdSense-like I would love to get API calls from the server instead of worrying about the browser. Things like WordPress could bake that into the server side and nontechnical publishers wouldn't have to even know the difference. O…

> > have everything on a page come from the same origin

> Would that really be so bad?

Yes definitely. Many sites use CDNs and the likes to serve their static files but even if we exclude those with newer technologies (HTTP2 etc) you've still got the big behemoth sites such as YouTube that simply can't serve everything from the same origin. They've got some smart folks over at Google but I'd imagine even they'd have a bit of trouble trying to make that mess work!

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by RodericDay »

freehunter wrote: post #101
Sir_Substance wrote: post #33

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>First of all, adblock has destroyed a significant number of small bloggers, content-writers, and other publishers, as especially those were struggling to stay above water. People used to do that for free because they cared about the content they were writing, rather than because it was making their daily bread. I distinctly remember the quality of writing during this time being much higher than it is today.

Yeah, I run three blogs that I started within the last two years and none of them have ads. None of them make money. It costs me $15/mo for hosting and $30/yr for domain name registration for all three combined, so it's not like I'm going bankrupt if I don't make money from my blog. I just like writing, and I get pretty excited when I get 50 views a day on one of them. Run your adblocker, I don't care. It's not block…

I was toying with the idea of making it required to have some kind of ad-block enabled for people to read my blog.

Just some hand-crafted full page splash with a generic class name that would get caught by the most primitive ad-blockers.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by webtechgal »

eknkc wrote: post #54
oneloop wrote: post #41

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Aren't people like Appnexus and Openx alternatives? What am I missing?

As far as I can tell, all alternatives have either lower revenues or the shittiest ads ever.

Spot on!!!

> all alternatives have either lower revenues or the shittiest ads ever

or both...

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by webtechgal »

jasonwen wrote: post #17

This year we will stop using AdSense altogether. No support at all and the payouts have been declining every year. With the increase of ad blockers, even less encouraging to use ads in general. Sometimes I wonder, are ads as we know it, dead? Everyone hates it, has real usability impact and security risks. Didnt get the email though...

You (as well as others here) might find a recent thread running over at the WebMasterWorld forums to be interesting:

Why AdSense is Alive and Well https://www.webmasterworld.com/google_adsense/4811179.htm

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by Grishnakh »

illumin8 wrote: post #72
zzleeper wrote: post #52

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On my phone, I switched from Chrome to Firefox because many websites had ads that used the phone vibrator, others redirected to the play store, etc. It's insane and you can't disable it from Chrome...

What? Android lets websites vibrate your phone and launch the Play store without permission? That's insane. This is one of the reasons I will never have an android phone.

I have an Android phone, and I've never seen anything like this.

Then again, I don't do a lot of web surfing on my phone, and when I do, I use Firefox with uBlock Origin. Smooth sailing here....

Does iPhone even allow you to use a different browser? That's why I would never own an iPhone: you're supposed to pay a ton of money for something you can't replace the battery on or upgrade the storage on, and then you're not even allowed to customize it in any way or use any alternative apps to the Apple ones.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by Grishnakh »

kriro wrote: post #108
t0pz wrote: post #20

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Let me provide you with some insight into your bewonderment: 1) I work in the Ad technology industry and i can tell you with confidence that ads are far from dead. The human logic of "We hate it, so it must not be working" is understandable but condradicting the actual data entirely. I look at this data on a daily basis and i can tell you that Ads have increased by a LOT in the last 10 years. They are also working fo…

Well there's also the scenario of someone not running an ad-blocker and unsuspectingly getting served ransom ware which results in you know actual pirate like behavior of arrrrsking for bitcoin ransom to decrypt you data. I urge everyone to turn on ad-blockers and stop this security madness stop. Additionally I urge people to write to their congressman/woman (or whatever means you have) and demand that the add-servin…

It's not enough: due to the multiplicative effect (one ad-server can serve billions of ads and affect countless people), and the hefty fines, the ad-servers simply won't have enough funds to pay the fines and will go bankrupt.

So, your proposal would also need the following measures: 1) fines cannot be discharged by bankruptcy, ever, 2) anyone working at the ad-serving company is liable, and 3) if their money runs out before all the fines are paid, they go to Guantanamo and get tortured daily until someone pays all the fines. If the advertisers are OK with these terms, then maybe we can think about stopping the use of ad-blockers.

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