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Re: Trump

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Post by ch4s3 »

lefstathiou wrote: post #99

Both sides pointing fingers that the other is living in a reality distortion field. ## We are already in the midst of a global trade war that will have billions of dollars of impact on the US and impact the livlihoods of tens of thousands (or hundreds) of thousands of people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_mainland_C... http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/20/technology/google-android-la... http://www.nyti…

To be fair you first link on point 3 is about the IRS having a new class of legal tax entity to regulate and not enough time or money to check all applications. So, they admittedly focused on anti-tax groups assuming they would be most likely to be in violation of tax code. Those groups just happened to be mostly conservative groups, and the IRS happened to be right, they caught a ton of them breaking the rules.

For my tax dollars, I'm fine with the IRS targeting anti-tax groups, it makes sense and the evidence supported their judicious use of time and resources.Let's not forget these were/are shady 501(c)(4) meant to hide political donations.

Re: Trump

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Post by mikeash »

brwnll wrote: post #100
mikeash wrote: post #38

This certainly doesn't match what I've seen. All the people who think Trump is unfit seem perfectly willing to say so. All of the people who support him seem to be completely sincere in their belief that Trump would make a good president. I don't see anyone giving any indication that they think Trump shouldn't be president, but that they're afraid to say so. There is no "charade," as the author puts it. It's possible…

Not sure where you're seeing that. Many prominent Republicans have endorsed Trump, but then denounce comment after comment Trump makes, without ever removing their endorsement of the candidate out of loyalty to the party.

They might disagree with him on many things, but I don't think they think he's outright unfit. It seems to me that they still sincerely think he's the best choice when the other one is Clinton.

In any case, it's the electorate that really matters, not the leadership. I don't see any prospective voters afraid to speak their mind. Trump supporters among the general population all seem to be completely sincere. Trump opposers are unafraid to declare it.

Re: Trump

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Post by bryanlarsen »

colmvp wrote: post #105
ythl wrote: post #40

Get this political crap off of HN

Honestly, I'm surprised to see such a political piece from YC, especially since most political links on HN get taken down within a few hours.

This one lasted less than half an hour on the front page, despite being written by the president of YC. Granted, that's about 29 minutes longer than other political posts last, but it's a pretty rough ride for something with > 200 upvotes.

Re: Trump

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Post by Impossible »

smacktoward wrote: post #87
kirinan wrote: post #25

While I think Trump is a bad choice, I think comparing him to Hitler is overzealous and irresponsible. There are no doubt similarities between the two but Hitler wrote an entire book about the "Jewish Peril" and how it was destroying society and needed to be dealt with. It was clear that Hitler had an agenda that was anti-semetic, and the charisma/ability to execute on it. Trump is a racist and a bigot, but he is far…

Among the very few specific policy proposals Trump has put forward, these are the most prominent: * Building a giant wall along the U.S.'s southern border to keep Mexicans out * Rounding up and deporting Hispanics currently in the U.S. on a mass scale never before seen in history I mean, yes, he's not proposing herding Hispanics into gas chambers, but he absolutely is talking about making American policy tilt harder…

Although I don't want to turn this into oppression olympics, and at the risk of getting downvoted heavily, I want to point out that mass deportation of Hispanics wouldn't compare against hundreds of years of slavery of African Americans, forced mass migration and slaughter of Native Americans and the placing Japanese Americans in internment camps.

This is in no way saying "its not that bad of a policy" its still a horrible thing to propose, but saying "American policy tilt harder against one particular race than it ever has in the past" is ignoring a lot of history, unless you're talking about very recent events.

Re: Trump

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Post by ebbv »

throwanem wrote: post #103
ebbv wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably nobody who is against Trump is bending any facts to try to stop him. The only one who has no respect for reality is Trump himself.

> Probably nobody who is against [a presidential candidate] is bending any facts to try to stop [him/her] Given the reality of 21st century electoral politics in the United States, I find it unsurprising, yet deeply disappointing all the same, that anyone actually believes this.

If Trump were any less of a lunatic I would say that people are definitely bending the truth around him. But he supplies so much fuel for his opponents there's really no need.

Re: Trump

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Post by chokolad »

tomjen3 wrote: post #63
Everhusk wrote: post #7

> And without it, we’ll lose our position as the most powerful country in the world. Why is this a bad thing? Isn't the goal of globalization to start thinking of our planet as a whole?

Because America is a much more benevolent dictator than China, Putin or any other country.

Putin is not a country.

Re: Trump

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Post by hubert123 »

mej10 wrote: post #114
ethanhunt_ wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just quoted the reporter, not Trump! This was the same tactic used to claim that Trump said we should have all Muslims wear a mark in the U.S. A reported said that, then people said that Trump said it.

Trump: Jake, if he was giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't be talking to you this way. He's given me horrible rulings. Tapper: But I don't care if you criticize him. That's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying is, if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job ... Trump: I think that's why he's doing it.

Race can be a motivator, you know that right? Human beings are not machines with 0 bias just because they are in a position where they are supposed to have 0 bias.

Re: Trump

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Post by mej10 »

mikeash wrote: post #122
brwnll wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure where you're seeing that. Many prominent Republicans have endorsed Trump, but then denounce comment after comment Trump makes, without ever removing their endorsement of the candidate out of loyalty to the party.

They might disagree with him on many things, but I don't think they think he's outright unfit. It seems to me that they still sincerely think he's the best choice when the other one is Clinton. In any case, it's the electorate that really matters, not the leadership. I don't see any prospective voters afraid to speak their mind. Trump supporters among the general population all seem to be completely sincere. Trump op…

> "He needs someone highly experienced and very knowledgeable because it's pretty obvious he doesn't know a lot about the issues," McConnell said of a running mate for the mogul.

He doesn't say he is "unfit" because he can't -- How can you not think a comment like that from McConnell is pretty damning of Trump's abilities?

Re: Trump

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Post by lucio »

smoyer wrote: post #55

This year's race for president can be summed up easily by two well-known quotes (one in Sam's essay): Edmund Burke - "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Albert Einstein - "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

funny thing, the Burke one seems to be a misquote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke#False_quotations

Re: Trump

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Post by mikeash »

Aloha wrote: post #67
ethanhunt_ wrote: post #20

Disappointed to see Sam repeat things that are plainly false. Everyone says that Trump says such horrible things, but why is it that so often those same people have to misquote him to make it seem horrible? > He has said that a judge of Mexican descent couldn’t treat him fairly because of his heritage and that we should ban Muslims from entering the country. He said that a judge of Mexican descent isn't treating him…

This is how trump talks. He says "BIG OUTRAGEOUS THING, with long list of qualifiers that follow" the media reports the first part and completely misses the second. Mostly it's a great way to game the system to get free media attention.

It's a manifestation of dog whistle politics. He says this stuff and we understand the implication that Mexicans are coming here and screwing things up. But his supporters can deflect criticism because the literal words are sufficiently vague that you can accuse people of inferring too much.
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