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Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by colordrops »

peterjuras wrote: post #88
goodplay wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tyranny of the defaults goes both ways; If you're software doesn't have sane defaults, I will search for another.

That's a very weak reason not to use the messenger. You're confirming that if you want to create a good app, you should not listen to complaining users. Judging by your comments you're not going to use the app period. You can just say so instead of creating artificial reasons which don't hold true for you anyways.

Sane defaults are a very good reason to decide to use an app. It's very common to reset user settings back to defaults during a "major" (or just marketing) upgrade of an app.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by tdkl »

robocat wrote: post #48
rietta wrote: post #20

I dislike this change. I specifically only access Facebook on my phone via the web app because (1) it saves significant battery and (2) I absolutely do not want the popup bubbles during the work day from church and other social groups I am connected to on Facebook. Ultimately, all this means is that I will stop accessing Facebook Messenger on my phone all together. I will communicate with the people who matter most o…

I wonder where that leaves the say 10% of users that use a browser because they are on an device that isn't supported by Messenger (obsolete Android, iPhone, Windows Phone, Blackberry, Fire, etc).

They are redirected to mbasic.facebook.com which still works. Most Android FB wrappers have used that as a workaround for now to still reach Messenger.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by pmx »

kobayashi wrote: post #101
Harimwakairi wrote: post #65

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Yep. Thank god for runtime permissions, at least.

Like those controlled in the iOS Privacy Setting page?

Yeah we now finally have them on android too in marshmallow

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by tdkl »

mfkp wrote: post #15

This announcement coming on the same day as the post about Facebook not using the microphone in the app seems strange to me. I don't want any Facebook apps on my phone due to privacy and tracking reasons, and so I used the web view (with an app wrapper like Tinfoil with location disabled), now I won't be able to send messages any longer. Guess I won't be using Messenger any longer.

Folio and Swipe for Facebook use mbasic.facebook.com and are being actively worked on.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by zem »

robocat wrote: post #45
Swizec wrote: post #27

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Protip: www.messenger.com works on computers. Doesn't seem to work on mobile tho

> Doesn't seem to work on mobile tho Did you try the Android "Request Desktop Site" checkbox? Edit: just saw that Zem says that works: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11835060 Edit 2: Jeswin says it isn't useable: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11834996

it's usable for me if you switch to desktop, but still go to m.facebook.com rather than www.facebook.com (easiest way is to go to facebook first and then switch to desktop). i'm guessing that whatever ajax call clicking on the message icon triggers gets a "this is a desktop" token attached to it even if you are visiting the site via m.facebook.com

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by personjerry »

codeka wrote: post #70
galistoca wrote: post #31

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I'm not a FB fanboy or anything, but sometimes it is a good choice to free yourself from legacy tech burden and build for the future. The web (html documents fetched via http requests) were not built with mobile devices in mind, especially websockets. In the mobile era, all messaging is based on push notifications which must go through the device vendor (APNS or GCM), and trying to support the legacy tech in this lan…

Chrome has perfectly acceptable push notification support. I am an occasional user of Facebook Messenger, and using the mobile website was perfect: I don't care if notifications are delayed or even lost (I'll see the messages eventually anyway). But there's no way I'm going to install a separate app for something I use maybe once a week, tops. If it stops working from the mobile website, then I just wait until I'm ba…

Safari doesn't though :/

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by askafriend »

areyoucrazy wrote: post #73

I have stopped using Facebook (Twitter and everything social) half a decade ago. I don't use messaging apps and turn on my phone only when I really need to. Result: more free time to do interesting and productive things and people aren't bothering me as much. I have taken control of my life and I'm not being pushed around to do things based on notifications or desire for artificial status(likes, retweet, stars). Stop…

Try doing that as a mobile developer.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by taurath »

alaskanloops wrote: post #98
taurath wrote: post #17

Eventually facebook will become so user hostile the network effect will mean that so many people are leaving it'll be like Digg and Myspace all over again. Can we go back to the time when companies tried to please users instead of advertisers?

Has there ever been a time like that? Sounds like you have a bad case of "back in my day"-itis.

Yup, before they were public.
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