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Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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post #16

Any time in the last 10 years I setup an independent email server it had horrible deliverability rates. I wonder how they worked around that. Getting your server whitelisted with all the major providers is a major hassle.

Funny enough, State Department did in fact have issues with clintonemail.com mail ending up in Spam folders! Check the just released State Department report.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

#123
post #65

Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

>> She is also supposedly not the first Secretary of State to have an arrangement of this nature.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/...

Politifact rates this idea mostly false.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we need to preface every discussion with a list of others' bad behavior? I imagine that would distract for the topic under discussion... and you wouldn't want to do that would you?

Well, we could be superficial and only talk about Hillary. OR, and this is crazy but stay with me, we could talk about how this issue happened way back in the early 2000's and no one at the NSA/House addressed the issue then. A lot of people failed on this issue long before Hillary.

Why stop in the early 2000's? Surely this is all superficial if we avoid the real issue - the control of privileged information! It should be obvious how unproductive this line of thinking is, eventually we'd find ourselves debating the original sin of man.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Given all the warnings I got when I had a secret clearance back in the 80's about protecting the information and what penalties I faced for not following the rules I've found it unimaginable that the Secretary of State didn't know or didn't care about protecting much higher level secrets.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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post #65

Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

I think it's one thing to have run your own email server back in the early 2000's and doing the same in the mid teens. There is much more sophistication in terms of adversarial means and methods as well as sheer number of adversaries --as well as "education" about security.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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post #65

Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone.

Baloney. She was the second most powerful person in the US government. If she couldn't get them to provide modern secure communications, she had the ear of the one who could.

If it was as you say, and truly that systemic a problem, then indeed heads should politically roll - starting from the top, which means her.

Handling national secrets on a cheap generic PC in one's bathroom because a subordinate huge-budget agency won't cooperate is a sign of gross incompetence on many levels. If jail time is what it's going to take to motivate people to get this systemic problem solved, them so be it. The standards are obvious, and ominously violated to a dangerous degree.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

#128
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the rationale for not giving everyone secure smartphones? And I mean high-ranking officials, SoS certainly ranks considering how much she/he is in foreign countries with foreign leaders. Can someone in the know explain why the NSA would deny such requests?

Difficult to know for sure. Obama had one, Rice previously used one, but: The NSA refused to give Clinton a device similar to the one used by Obama: a modified BlackBerry 8830 World Edition with additional cryptography installed. And while Clinton's predecessor Condaleeza Rice had obtained waivers for herself and her staff to use BlackBerry devices, Clinton's staff was told that "use [of the BlackBerry] expanded to a…

They refused to give her a highly customized hardened BlackBerry. She could have used a laptop or other device. There is no way they don't have a standard secure remote email capability, she just wanted what Obama had, and they said no, we aren't supporting any more bespoke devices for individuals. Which is totally rational from a security standpoint.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

#129
post #77
post #13

The emails themselves sent from Clinton's server were unencrypted for several months, so unencrypted printing is just more of the same. There's no reasonable question anymore that laws on handling classified data were broken, the only question is will charges actually be brought?

Assuming the data was classified (HRC has stated that it was not), what laws were broken?

Department of State employees are supposed to treat any material that even could be classified as extremely sensitive, and not to leave the building. On top of the flagrant disregard for security procedure detailed in this commentary, Clinton routinely shared material with private citizens like Sid Blumenthal, who had no security clearance whatsoever.

For answers to most of your questions about the Clinton email scandal, http://www.thompsontimeline.com/ breaks all the factors in play here down in excruciating detail.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

#130
post #65

Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. Baloney. She was the second most powerful person in the US government. If she couldn't get them to provide modern secure communications, she had the ear of the one who could. If it was as you say, and truly that systemic a problem, then indeed heads should politically roll - starting from the…

Here are the results from the FOIA request that underlie that statement. The NSA certainly pushed back. https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judi...
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