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Credit-Card Debt Nears $1 Trillion as Banks Push Plastic

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Is there a way to read the article without signing up or subscribing?

I have this bookmarklet that I click every time I visit a page that is paywalled, as many are open if referred via Google: javascript:(function(){location.replace('http://www.google.com/search?q='+document.URL)})()

If you update this to use window.location.href = url, you won't lose history :)

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Honest question. There aren't debit cards in the united states? They are simple plastic cards like credit carda but the bank is withdrawing your money directly from your account. There is not debt involved.

Many credit cards have cash-back or other rewards. It's easy to see the dual appeal of the reward, plus a month's worth of float on the payment.

The rewards system is the wrong incentive here in my eye.

It corrupts everyone and everything down to each penny, on every transaction. Everyone along the line where the money flows is incentivised to get you a) hooked on credit cards and b) on paying by credit cards. The issuer, the merchant, the card institute, the processors in between and even the buyer get's a cut from the exorbitant high fees.

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Considering it is 2016, many Landlords have some form of payment processor they can use to accept credit card payments. Love it, as it's how I get a ton of miles / points for money I'm already spending anyway.

With the additional 2-3% that is charged, it comes out to about very similar to purchasing the points directly. Like Amex SPG costs $157 for 5000 points. If I pay my $1500 rent via my Amex but with an additional $50 premium, after 3 months, I have 4500 points for $150, versus being able to purchase 5k points for $157. If I spend $525, I can get 20k points. So it's better for this particular card to put aside the extr…

Wouldn't you (or any other reader here) prefer a system/world/setup where merchants wouldn't charge an extra 2-3% and not have those rewards?

I have been thinking a lot lately on how the credit card rewards/payback and fee split works - I dislike it.

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#124

I know some may criticize this, but I cut up my credit card soon after moving into my first apartment. My wife and I use debit cards exclusively, but I know it's only a matter of time before our card numbers get skimmed online or through a hacked terminal. Does anyone know of any measures we could take to minimize the effects when that does happen?

I'd get a prepaid credit card - not tied directly to any account, filled only by a transaction initiated from your end (e.g. via online banking).

Wouldn't that feel like a debit card too?

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#125

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Please stop with this heart-breaking narrative about the unequal in income, starving americans. It's about iphones and clothes, not groceries.

> Nearly half of Americans would have trouble finding $400 to pay for an emergency. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/my-secre...

I'd be interested to see your (or anyone from that article's) monthly spending/expenses and income. Do you have crazy medical bills or student loans that you can't avoid?

Do you budget your money out and track every transaction? It sucks to be in that situation, but there are always things you can do to improve it.

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Thanks for this. Was about to go nuts about how useless an average is on this sort of thing.

Well the median is an average so... And honestly both averages should be presented together, paints a terrifying picture

Median is the middle value of all values in a sequence. Average is the sum of all numbers in a sequence, divided by the count of values.

Take [0,2,100]: average is 34, but median is 2.

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#127
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Honest question. There aren't debit cards in the united states? They are simple plastic cards like credit carda but the bank is withdrawing your money directly from your account. There is not debt involved.

Yes, we have them.

If you're good with money, debit cards are a waste for the most part. You can get credit cards that pay you at least 1-1.5% for every purchase. They're basically paying you to spend your money.

If you're bad with money, steer clear of credit and stick to debit though.

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#128

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Please stop with this heart-breaking narrative about the unequal in income, starving americans. It's about iphones and clothes, not groceries.

iPhones and new clothes are exactly the kinds of things that the middle classes can't really afford, but think of as normal.

+1. People who have not yet internalized that they are poor, sustaining to themselves and their children the lie that they are their parents' version of middle class.

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#129

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Please stop with this heart-breaking narrative about the unequal in income, starving americans. It's about iphones and clothes, not groceries.

Or medical bills. It only takes one major illness to ruin your average American family.

I can see that.

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Your landlord accepts credit card payments and you pay him/her with your credit card? No different than any other vendor. Mine charges like 2% or something to cover costs.

"Mine charges like 2% or something to cover costs." What I meant to ask was, "How do you pay rent with credit (without paying $30-40 each month for the privilege)?"

My card gives back 2% on everything so that would work out as a wash. (That said my fee would be closer to like 3-5% for paying via cc so I don't...)
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