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Horizon 1.0: a realtime, open-source JavaScript back end from RethinkDB

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Re: Horizon 1.0: a realtime, open-source JavaScript back end from RethinkDB

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Post by true_religion »

bluecmd wrote: post #120

Sorry, but coming from an embedded world the use of Real-time here seems borderline offensive to me. Anyone care to explain what it means in this context? From the dawn of computer science it has been about strict time guarantees - and I highly doubt this is what's being referred to here.

AFAIK, soft-real time has been a well known term since the 80s. It means that the quality of service degrades the longer it takes for a response to be returned, and eventually a response is worthless if enough time passes.

Re: Horizon 1.0: a realtime, open-source JavaScript back end from RethinkDB

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Post by hathym »

bluecmd wrote: post #120

Sorry, but coming from an embedded world the use of Real-time here seems borderline offensive to me. Anyone care to explain what it means in this context? From the dawn of computer science it has been about strict time guarantees - and I highly doubt this is what's being referred to here.

Real-time in the web world means you don't need to hit the F5 or refresh button.

Re: Horizon 1.0: a realtime, open-source JavaScript back end from RethinkDB

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Post by shadow68 »

android521 wrote: post #108
coffeemug wrote: post #7

Hey guys, Slava @ Rethink here. The team is really excited to launch Horizon -- it's based on a lot of feedback from users of very different backgrounds, and we think it will make web development dramatically easier. I've been up for about twenty-four hours, but I'll be around to answer any questions for the rest of the day.

Hi, Slava, I was a web developer and now I am a mobile developer. Nobody is developing web applications anymore (at least in developing countries). We are all mobile first. How does android or ios developers take advantage of Horizon ? Can you give a few examples? How does horizon make mobile (native) developers life easier ? web development is slowing down and mobile development is on the rise. Mobile developers don…

Web developer here. Some of the most complicated application are being built for web vs mobile. Within the enterprise web applications, I fail to see how mobile is anywhere near web's presence especially for data intensive apps.

Re: Horizon 1.0: a realtime, open-source JavaScript back end from RethinkDB

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Post by mercer »

sandstrom wrote: post #17

Although this is about horizon, if you haven't looked at RethinkdB you should definitely check it out. It's an awesome database for a variety of use-cases. Personally, I think their query language + support for joins makes it much more useable than MongoDB (which I've used quite a bit).

Agreed! I had tons of fun building my own CMS on top of RethinkDB (as well as a logging/journal app for personal use). The only reason I ended up with a wordpress/MySQL solution for the CMS was that building the CMS interface is a bitch and migrating from SQL to SQL was a bit easier.

But man was I sad to leave RethinkDB for that!

Re: Horizon 1.0: a realtime, open-source JavaScript back end from RethinkDB

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Post by mercer »

TheMissingPiece wrote: post #111
deepanchor wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is awesome, really looking forward to it. Rethinkdb is my goto database for everything nowadays, and I tell everyone I meet about it. Also: kudos to whoever is handling the artwork/marketing side of things. Love the vector art and website designs.

Christina from RethinkDB here (I work on all things community)... I'll pass the kind words along to our co-founder Mike G. who worked countless hours on the website, plus Annie Ruygt who does the artwork! It's wonderful to hear positive feedback since we do most of our design in-house :D

I'll second deepanchor. It might seem like such a minor detail, but at least for some people, including myself, it does matter. It signifies something.

Re: Horizon 1.0: a realtime, open-source JavaScript back end from RethinkDB

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Post by mercer »

TheMissingPiece wrote: post #112
zenlikethat wrote: post #14

Saw a demo of this at a realtime meetup in Palo Alto and was pretty impressed. Like everything RethinkDB does I anticipate it will be a fantastic one-two punch of sound engineering and smooth user experience.

Awesome! Was it Mike Seid's demo? Will have video up soon. Thanks for stopping by our meetup :D

Could you post it here when it's up? I'd like to see it.

Re: Horizon 1.0: a realtime, open-source JavaScript back end from RethinkDB

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Post by bluecmd »

hathym wrote: post #122
bluecmd wrote: post #120

Sorry, but coming from an embedded world the use of Real-time here seems borderline offensive to me. Anyone care to explain what it means in this context? From the dawn of computer science it has been about strict time guarantees - and I highly doubt this is what's being referred to here.

Real-time in the web world means you don't need to hit the F5 or refresh button.

Thanks!

Re: Horizon 1.0: a realtime, open-source JavaScript back end from RethinkDB

#130

Post by bluecmd »

true_religion wrote: post #121
bluecmd wrote: post #120

Sorry, but coming from an embedded world the use of Real-time here seems borderline offensive to me. Anyone care to explain what it means in this context? From the dawn of computer science it has been about strict time guarantees - and I highly doubt this is what's being referred to here.

AFAIK, soft-real time has been a well known term since the 80s. It means that the quality of service degrades the longer it takes for a response to be returned, and eventually a response is worthless if enough time passes.

I agree with that, but how does this apply to a javascript framework? You have no control over network latency or device CPU load.
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