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Re: Sunrise is shutting down

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post #94

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I agree but the current model is broken. I buy FantastiCal, don't like it, I've just thrown money down the toilet. Yeah yeah you can go through iTunes and get it back but that feels like a dick move, and how many actually know the procedure anyway? It's not exactly advertised. I throw a quid down the toilet? That's fine, I don't mind. I throw a fiver or a tenner? Woah dude, that's like, a Starbucks latte! Totally dif…

> I throw a quid down the toilet? That's fine, I don't mind. I throw a fiver or a tenner? Woah dude, that's like, a Starbucks latte! Totally different (or not, but hey, that's what it feels like). http://theoatmeal.com/blog/apps

you have to consider apps are still plugging holes of basic functionality everyone expect from a computer but isn't available on mobile.

I still can't fine tune my screen brightness nor set up a firewall. oh but next version of the OS will have support for saving a copy of my credit card for wireless payments

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

#122

The best part about Sunrise was Meet, its quick little method of booking meetings with someone: https://sunrise.am/meet You'd choose some available times, it gives you a link which you send to whoever you want to meet with, and the recipient books a time slot with a couple of clicks. It updates in real time so if you book something new, the slot disappears. It even has a little iOS keyboard to generate these links. D…

None of the suggested alternatives so far are the same as Sunrise's meet feature-- including vyte, Microsoft Invite, Google's Appointment Slots, or calendly.

Meet allows you (the requester) to set the times available for meeting and send a signup page to a single respondent.

It's not about group meetings, or about "office hours" that anyone can sign up for. The use case is surprisingly broad: a small window of availability for a single meeting.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

#123
post #85

From their announcement of acqusition: http://blog.sunrise.am/post/110577824529/sunrise-microsoft > Today, we’re excited to announce that Sunrise is joining Microsoft. For Sunrise, this is just the beginning. > Sunrise will remain free and available for iPhone, iPad, Mac, Android and Desktop – we’re not going anywhere.

That has an entirely different tone than this post: http://blog.sunrise.am/post/144196642739/its-almost-time-to-...

> It’s almost time to say goodbye

> as all good stories go, there’s a sad bit to it: we’re not able to support and update Sunrise anymore. No new features. No bug fixes.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

#124
post #25

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> Can anyone commit to building a proper business? How about we users commit to building the tools we need, and forget about relying on businesses to do it for us? That's what free software is all about — head on over to the Free Software Foundation and pitch in today!

Another angle... It's sad when we pay $5 for a coffee made in 5 minutes that we'll drink in 3... but not $5 for an app that took 5 months that we'd use daily for a year.

Not to mention that $5 might be the most expensive app someone buys, and then they expect updates for the foreseeable future despite on-going development costing loads more time. There have been developers who released a separate, paid sequel and were left with angry customers who expected updates to their original app.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

#125
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can anyone commit to building a proper business? How about we users commit to building the tools we need, and forget about relying on businesses to do it for us? That's what free software is all about — head on over to the Free Software Foundation and pitch in today!

Another angle... It's sad when we pay $5 for a coffee made in 5 minutes that we'll drink in 3... but not $5 for an app that took 5 months that we'd use daily for a year.

That 5-min coffee serves exactly one client and no more. The 5-month app can serve an infinite number of clients. The two are not equatable.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

#127

This is becoming a tiring pattern. I've just gotten used to the UI. Can anyone commit to building a proper business? Is Sustainability no longer a virtue of creating a service/application?

"Our product is our stock" - quote from HBO's "Silicon Valley"

Basically, this. Start-ups and their investors are looking to cash out. Imagine if Apple or Microsoft had been bought out by IBM in their early years, instead of them both disrupting the space drastically.

For the record, from a Microsoft stand-point, I think this makes perfect sense. They were acquiring talent and a user base it's foolish to have two competing products in your portfolio. From a user standpoint, it probably sucks (I've never used Sunrise, and actually already use Outlook's calendar.)

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

#128

Once a startup gets bought, I look for alternatives. If they don't shut down, I still learned something new! But usually they do. In this case, I landed on Fantastical [1] — it's a little pricy but completely worth it. (Mac/iOS only.) [1]: https://flexibits.com/fantastical

> it's a little pricy We should appreciate when its pricey. That's motivation for the product to continue to exist. Otherwise, "OurIncredibleJourney".

Agreed.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

#129
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree but the current model is broken. I buy FantastiCal, don't like it, I've just thrown money down the toilet. Yeah yeah you can go through iTunes and get it back but that feels like a dick move, and how many actually know the procedure anyway? It's not exactly advertised. I throw a quid down the toilet? That's fine, I don't mind. I throw a fiver or a tenner? Woah dude, that's like, a Starbucks latte! Totally dif…

> I throw a quid down the toilet? That's fine, I don't mind. I throw a fiver or a tenner? Woah dude, that's like, a Starbucks latte! Totally different (or not, but hey, that's what it feels like). http://theoatmeal.com/blog/apps

People hate the idea of spending money and then having a bad experience. You can be reasonably sure that with a cup of coffee that it won't be completely terrible, if you have a bad experience you can ask them to brew you a new one. With apps it is a lot more hoops to jump for a less certain outcome.

Re: Sunrise is shutting down

#130
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's a little pricy We should appreciate when its pricey. That's motivation for the product to continue to exist. Otherwise, "OurIncredibleJourney".

I agree but the current model is broken. I buy FantastiCal, don't like it, I've just thrown money down the toilet. Yeah yeah you can go through iTunes and get it back but that feels like a dick move, and how many actually know the procedure anyway? It's not exactly advertised. I throw a quid down the toilet? That's fine, I don't mind. I throw a fiver or a tenner? Woah dude, that's like, a Starbucks latte! Totally dif…

Would Apple allow an app that's ad-free for 30 days then chock full of nagware?
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