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Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by tommyd »

ywecur wrote: post #116
tommyd wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I downloaded and tried Spacemacs out of curiosity, after seeing your comment. While I'm sure it adds a lot of usability features compared to the default Emacs config and it looks pretty cool, it's nowhere near as immediately accessible as Atom or Sublime - for example, I have no idea how to close an open file without Googling whereas in Sublime or Atom it's either click the "X" or use the standard Cmd-W shortcut. I a…

>I have no idea how to close an open file without Googling whereas in Sublime or Atom it's either click the "X" or use the standard Cmd-W shortcut. You can just use the menu bar for that. >I also have no idea how to open a project or search for a file, and don't really know where to start discovering those things, whereas in both Sublime and Atom you can browse through the menus, or hopefully quickly discover the Cmd…

> Honestly, and sorry for sounding rude, to me it just seems like you intentionally tried to not understand in order to prove a point; Just because in your mind you have this idea of emacs just having to be inferior in some way.

Not at all and I didn't mean it to come across in that way, apologies if it did. Thanks for pointing out those things - I actually for some reason didn't think of using the menu bar at all, I guess because it looks like a non-GUI app. That's my fault anyway!

I was just interested in the "absolute newcomer" user experience, as that is how a lot of people will judge things, which for me after a few minutes was "I can't work out how to do what I need to do" and so I stopped. I'm sure that with an hour or so playing around, I would get used to it, and I intend to!

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by TeMPOraL »

tommyd wrote: post #113
ywecur wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alright, so say they use Spacemacs (Which really should be the Emacs default). Now how would they justify their choice?

I downloaded and tried Spacemacs out of curiosity, after seeing your comment. While I'm sure it adds a lot of usability features compared to the default Emacs config and it looks pretty cool, it's nowhere near as immediately accessible as Atom or Sublime - for example, I have no idea how to close an open file without Googling whereas in Sublime or Atom it's either click the "X" or use the standard Cmd-W shortcut. I a…

A text editor is a tool. I don't think accessibility matters that much - it's something that can and should be sacrificed for improved efficiency of working with said tool. You spend 5 minutes Googling up (oh, omg, reading the built-in manual or running the tutorial that happens to be shown pretty much on startup) how to do some things and now you can do those things much more efficiently than by clicking around "discoverable" menus and toolbars.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by philliphaydon »

cortesi wrote: post #17
nickpeterson wrote: post #3

Doesn't indicate perf improvements... Not trying to troll, but that surprises me given the large number of complaints about performance.

I'm making a bit of a habit of chipping in on Atom performance complaints with a counterpoint. I've now used Atom as my primary editor for more than a year, and I have no complaints about the performance. This could be because I'm using OSX on recent hardware - I've noticed that my friends using Linux desktops seem to have more issues than I do.

I have a pretty good computer but atom is pretty slow, crashes often, and all that's with little to no plugins. vS Code on the other hand I've never had crash and handles lots of files with ease.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by zuck9 »

Couto wrote: post #23
spdustin wrote: post #18

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That's _after_ the first launch, correct?

Not necessarily. You can set the property in your ~/.atom/config.cson before the first run. https://github.com/Couto/.dotfiles/blob/master/tag-atom/atom... in case you need an example

It auto launches after installing in Windows.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by TeMPOraL »

connorshea wrote: post #93
ApolloRising wrote: post #49

Quick question: Does anyone know why a basic thing like printing seems to not be included in the default atom app?

Have you opened an issue about it? They may not realize anyone would even want that feature. Also, why do you want that feature?

For printing code, obviously. Personally, I do that when doing big refactors on some module I didn't write (or wrote it so long ago I don't remember much), or basically when I can't focus. I actually learned that from 'edw519, who summed up my worries about paper use with "Paper is cheap. Focus is golden.".

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by ywecur »

crucialfelix wrote: post #119
ywecur wrote: post #118

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I don't understand your reasoning here. >my install kept getting broken by updates. Atom has never just fallen over dead like that. Could you elaborate on that? This has never happened to me. If this happened because you wrote a bunch of custom layers then I'd argue that it's a non issue because in Atom you cannot do that at all (or at least experience the same problems if you do) >After quite a while it was still my…

Uh... additionally I'd like to add that anytime I discuss problems that I had with Spacemacs I was treated to this kind of blaming and argumentative tone.

Sorry, my intention was to try to help you, not offend you :(

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by oneweekwonder »

wastedhours wrote: post #112
cortesi wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm making a bit of a habit of chipping in on Atom performance complaints with a counterpoint. I've now used Atom as my primary editor for more than a year, and I have no complaints about the performance. This could be because I'm using OSX on recent hardware - I've noticed that my friends using Linux desktops seem to have more issues than I do.

Tried Atom and it was a real memory hog on Windows - need to go back and try this version, but do enjoy using Caret for lighter touch work that doesn't need a full IDE (or at work where Chrome extensions are allowed, but installs aren't).

Thanks, I installed Caret-T[0], will play around with it. For those not interested in the fork and javascript Intellisense, have look at the caret website[1].

[0]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/caret-t/agiednhnlg... [1]: http://thomaswilburn.net/caret/

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by jarcane »

sergiotapia wrote: post #35

You know what I would really enjoy? Being able to sign into your Github account and sync your preferences and packages to the cloud. Then if I sign in on a different computer, all my hotkeys, packages and themes are copied over seamlessly. As a crappy workaround I have this: https://github.com/sergiotapia/atom-meteor-packages But still, I would like this to be a core integration. I've since switched to RubyMine and W…

  cd ~/.emacs.d
  git init
  git add .
  git commit -m "My emacs config"
  git remote add origin http://github.com/myname/myemacsd
  git remote -v
  git push origin master
Just sayin' is all ...

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by melling »

dublinben wrote: post #79
dzhiurgis wrote: post #77

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But you will most likely have it anyway.

Speak for yourself. My primary computer is a $200 laptop.

ok, try Atom and report back. The guy who was complaining had projects of several thousand files, some of which were 50,000 line xml files.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by cheez »

jarcane wrote: post #128
sergiotapia wrote: post #35

You know what I would really enjoy? Being able to sign into your Github account and sync your preferences and packages to the cloud. Then if I sign in on a different computer, all my hotkeys, packages and themes are copied over seamlessly. As a crappy workaround I have this: https://github.com/sergiotapia/atom-meteor-packages But still, I would like this to be a core integration. I've since switched to RubyMine and W…

cd ~/.emacs.d git init git add . git commit -m "My emacs config" git remote add origin http://github.com/myname/myemacsd git remote -v git push origin master Just sayin' is all ...

That's not web scale /s

That being said, because I use a different OS every week, I have found this to not work as well as I'd like because I often forget to commit/push after a change.

Since I'm always committing/pushing, it seems to me like keeping ~/.emacs.d in Dropbox is the better solution.

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