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I recently bought my first smartphone(!), a BQ A4.5, pure android, always updated, with 5 years of guarantee(!) by 150€. I recommend it: good battery, good western design and enough performance for me (low resolution with a good screen improves performance).
What do you mean by always updated?
Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Tablet – Pre-order
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#122Why would I buy this over a laptop?
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So you can install and run nginx, redis, Atom.io, postgres etc. on this?
Not in a "supported" way. If it's anything like Ubuntu on phones, it will be a read-only filesystem with image-based updates. apt is available, but only if you remount the system read-write (you do have root via sudo). If you do that, then you can't use image-based updates any more, since that'll stomp over your changes. I'm in favour of this arrangement, since I think it's the only way to get updates to work reliabl…
How is Maemo unreliable in that respect? I was disappointed to find Touch doesn't work like it does.
> But don't expect a traditional Linux-based desktop but on a tablet, since that's not what you'll get.
I thought the whole point was that you can switch. That's what Canonical says, and what's demonstrated in some videos floating around.
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What was your intended use of an Ubuntu tablet? Server-farm? Gaming? I am pretty excited, but it is Linux on a tablet , which is kinda the worst of the worst from a performance perspective. Hopefully this marks the beginning of an increasing trend of more open & capable Operating Systems on our mobile devices.
I'm concerned the browser will crash after you open 3 tabs. Ubuntu Desktop is really really memory hungry. It is currently using 8gb RAM on my Desktop which has been steadily increasing since last restart. The only thing you can possibly do on this thing is use a not very power hungry text editor. No VMs, no machine learning, no data processing and no games. If they had maybe 8gb RAM, 128 gb storage with a faster CPU…
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#125I've seen a lot of Linux tablets, and so far they've always been a touchscreen added to an early 2000's desktop-style interface: small touch targets, gestures don't work in obvious places etc. That said, it's been a while so I could be out of date: is the Linux desktop UI and apps used by the Ubuntu tablet touch focused? Edit: Linux as in the common usage of 'Linux kernel, glibc, X', not Android. Which you knew.
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#126" A tablet when you want it, a PC when you need it " I'm not sure if I'm being naive, but it seems to me that for a decade, the laptop market has had a ridiculous hole. There is a market for something which is not windows, at a sub $500-$600 price that is good. Tablet UI, desktop, whatever. Something that can run skype, whatsapp, tinder and the other network-effect apps that can replace their 3 year old home laptop a…
Tablets basically took that space, I think.
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Not in a "supported" way. If it's anything like Ubuntu on phones, it will be a read-only filesystem with image-based updates. apt is available, but only if you remount the system read-write (you do have root via sudo). If you do that, then you can't use image-based updates any more, since that'll stomp over your changes. I'm in favour of this arrangement, since I think it's the only way to get updates to work reliabl…
> I'm in favour of this arrangement, since I think it's the only way to get updates to work reliably, Then how is it Google can update my chromebook while I keep running ubuntu with 100% of linux features? I've done this for a year with no hiccup and no linux upgrades.
You could do this on an Ubuntu phone or tablet I suppose, by for example running a secondary "traditional" Ubuntu system inside a container in a read-write directory on the read-only system. I don't know if this will be possible from day one, but it's certainly possible technically if someone implements it (like how someone has implemented Crouton). I doubt you'll see the same level of integration (for example with the tablet UI seamlessly moving over to your desktop) if you do it this way, however.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not in a "supported" way. If it's anything like Ubuntu on phones, it will be a read-only filesystem with image-based updates. apt is available, but only if you remount the system read-write (you do have root via sudo). If you do that, then you can't use image-based updates any more, since that'll stomp over your changes. I'm in favour of this arrangement, since I think it's the only way to get updates to work reliabl…
Thank you for this informative comment (where do you learn more about the interesting stuff?). Isn't there a nice way to have it both ways, i.e. automate all changes in a script, and roll it after each image update? Assuming most things that may need to be hacked away don't see breaking changes after each update?
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Not in a "supported" way. If it's anything like Ubuntu on phones, it will be a read-only filesystem with image-based updates. apt is available, but only if you remount the system read-write (you do have root via sudo). If you do that, then you can't use image-based updates any more, since that'll stomp over your changes. I'm in favour of this arrangement, since I think it's the only way to get updates to work reliabl…
> I'm in favour of this arrangement, since I think it's the only way to get updates to work reliably, How is Maemo unreliable in that respect? I was disappointed to find Touch doesn't work like it does. > But don't expect a traditional Linux-based desktop but on a tablet, since that's not what you'll get. I thought the whole point was that you can switch. That's what Canonical says, and what's demonstrated in some vi…
My understanding is that apps will indeed seamlessly switch between the two modes - but only where they have specifically been adapted to do so. Apps not adapted will not run. Or am I mistaken?
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Right. Because Android is built on a desktop interface... The state of tablets could better but it's not that bad.
the tablet mode is just like android but you can change to desktop mode, hence better than an android tablet