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On Marrying the Wrong Person

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Re: On Marrying the Wrong Person

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I was in a similar situation to the GP. Desirability and bad habits are not the issues. You're blaming the victim. You can't compete against someone else's selfishness. You will lose every time. The only thing to do is to walk away, but in the context of a marriage, it's not easy to do. My ex is still indescribably selfish five years later. She still wants to appear to be a good mother at the expense of actually bein…

I don't mean this in a derogatory manner, mostly curious, as I've heard similar stories from extended family and have become rather concerned. Looking back, do you see any warning signs of a future marriage like the one you described? How long did you date before you got married/had your daughter? It seems strange that traits like you described could remain hidden until bursting out once you're "trapped" by marriage,…

In the case of my ex-wife, it was fairly stealthy. My ex-wife was (and probably is) desperate for approval. So anyone she doesn't "have" in her circle of people who accept her, she will bend over backwards to please. Before I was her husband, I was one of those people. She wanted to make me happy so that I would make her my wife. However, once she has that approval, it ends. The closer you are to her, the less effort she will make. That seems backward to me.

I also dated another severely selfish woman. In that relationship it was much like the sibling poster mentions. There were high expectations of me, but even minor expectations of her resulted in her playing the victim or making lame nonsensical excuses. There was no reciprocity, zero respect, and no concern for the relationship as its own entity.

What both these women had in common was a desperation for approval and attention from others. This need was so large that I could not possibly fill it and I was ultimately made to feel that I was only a giver of attention and a tool to aid in the acquisition of more attention from strangers.

This type of thing is very obvious to me now, but when I met my ex-wife I was much younger and pretty clueless about women in general.

Re: On Marrying the Wrong Person

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No, that rings hollow to me. Humans are sophisticated enough to genuinely have other needs aside from primal mating urges. Self-actualization is a huge one and more than sufficient to be the primary motivator for someone seeking to leave a family/marriage situation.

And yet, statistically, very few people have self-actualization urges beyond using them as a means to attract a mate and reproducing.

You say statistically but you don't have any references to support that statement. My anecdotal experience says otherwise.

Re: On Marrying the Wrong Person

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I am from a different school. I got married because I had to. The myriad questions of "incompatibility" were never given accommodation in both of our minds. Period.

Moral: I am not so special so as not to be able to accommodate another person !

Re: On Marrying the Wrong Person

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At this rate, I'll likely never marry since I have a hard enough time knowing myself in general (not a joke, since I'm trans and dealing with my gender identity now at 35 it really sucks to meet people in social settings). Oh well, I can always just have a cat to feed and pet.

Re: On Marrying the Wrong Person

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I think there might be simpler explanation. Consider that starting and especially leaving a relationship has major time and emotional costs. So we're simply biased to commit to anyone we happen to be with. Similar to why we work the wrong job, for example.

That certainly plays a role.
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