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Post by mahyarm »

refurb wrote: post #73
azinman2 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russians and Chinese are a major contributor, and they're not so affected by SV cycles.

I don't know about SV, but foreign investment is pretty dam low in Victoria, BC, which could be used as a proxy for Vancouver. 97.8% were domestic buyers.[1] It's not foreign buyers driving up the market in Vancouver, it's Canadians will to put themselves into serious debt in order to buy a house. [1] http://www.greaterfool.ca/2016/01/31/of-debt-data/

But what induces the higher market?

You get echo effects from places like Vancouver. Wealthy foreign buyers use high end real estate as a bank account increase the prices of top of the line housing significantly. Wealthier natives (Dentists?), now priced out of the highest end go down the scale and start purchasing lower end stuff with more money, increasing the price for everyone in a domino effect.

Government, not wanting the housing market to go down, create laws to allow subprime mortgage lending and buyers buy houses without real limits on price, and the middle class can now keep up with the price boom.

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by chebum »

gomox wrote: post #88
PaulHoule wrote: post #72

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It's a pretty good product but everybody and his brother sells analytics and visualization tools, most of the companies that have been around a while sell a few different tools since they've grown by acquisition. Tableau is more differentiated than it looks, but it doesn't look very differentiated. If Microsoft ever gets around to making many of the "smart" features in Excel actually work (i.e. csv import and automat…

Honestly I have never used anything similar to Tableau in the balance of "straight-forwardness" and quality of results. My use case is: here's some data, let's take a look at it and make some decent graphs including any sort of comparative analysis. Excel is... well, Excel. The kitchen sink bundled in it contains pivot tables. Graphs are hideous out of the box, and very limited. Apple Numbers makes cute looking graph…

Klipfolio?

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Post by dev1n »

spike021 wrote: post #110
physcab wrote: post #90

Tableau is a good product. I use it daily. There simply is no better alternative for quick ad-hoc, enterprise-level, intuitive graph and dashboard making. I've been at large orgs where we evaluated all the cloud services like Mixpanel and the ilk, but they are very different use cases. Tableau + Redshift (or Vertica but Redshift is way less expensive) is the typical BI tech stack. When I go a client or a new job and…

For that use-case is Tableau a more useful tool than something like Splunk or ELK stack?

Tableau is for business analysts. ELK is for Sys Admins. I think.

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by Maarten88 »

r00fus wrote: post #100
mcgannon2007 wrote: post #77

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Microsoft now has PowerBI in its Office suite that is pretty powerful. Its a Tableau competitor that I believe is a big reason that their stock is falling. It integrates with Excel, Access, etc. and a ton of different other non-Microsoft services.

Which level of office suite do you need to get this tool?

As part of Office 365 it's in E5 ($35) or as an add-on to other levels for $10 (per user per month). There's also a limited free desktop version.

https://powerbi.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by untog »

karmawitch wrote: post #106
untog wrote: post #27

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This is an extremely frustrating thread to follow. We have some people who have run a Tableau server with no issues, and now two people who are effectively saying "oh, it's awful but I have no interest in telling you why".

five people telling in detail horror stories that make every other devop feel the pain? (except those seasoned exchange-experts of course) did you ever consider there might be valid reasons some folks prefer *nix based servers?

five people telling in detail horror stories that make every other devop feel the pain?

Check the timestamps of those messages vs mine. At the time there were only the two responses I mentioned.

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by jonknee »

chollida1 wrote: post #50

Though the outcome is a bit worse than I think most predicted, this has been telegraphed since about November of last year. Tableau has had a very high short interest ratio for sometime, everyone was expecting poor results. What really exacerbated their issue was that they didn't get out in front of this and let people know how bad they were going to miss. So when they released earnings everything went to shit on the…

It would make a nice acquisition for Microsoft...

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Post by warfangle »

walker7734 wrote: post #39
andrewvc wrote: post #4

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If you've ever run tableau server, you know why.

I would very much like to know what particular issues you are having as well? I work at Tableau and I would like to make sure that issues people are seeing are on our radar, if they aren't already.

Having to program against its APIs recently:

1. No ability to use a 3rd party auth provider AFAIK, which means either keeping tableau passwords in a database or having users remember two different passwords

2. Embedded views use synchronous requests, which can easily hang the browser. Synchronous XMLHttpRequest has been deprecated for a while. I think I even saw a version of dojo from 2005 being loaded.

3. Reports are either static size or dynamic size, and unless you're using the (clunky but well documented) JS SDK, there's no way to tell.

4. Viewing reports in the browser is sloooooow. Browser console output is filled with warnings.

5. In order to put together sheets from multiple workbooks into a browser-based view, you need to either a) load the jssdk for each of the workbooks and query for sheets, which is extraordinarily slow, or b) do it with the REST api, authentication with which is asinine in nature (see #1).

Re: Tableau stock down almost 50%

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Post by capkutay »

dev1n wrote: post #124
spike021 wrote: post #110

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For that use-case is Tableau a more useful tool than something like Splunk or ELK stack?

Tableau is for business analysts. ELK is for Sys Admins. I think.

Tableau is for business analysts. Splunk is for Sys Admins. ELK is for engineers with a lot of patience.
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