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Apple’s declining software quality

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Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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The decline seems real to me. A shortlist of things I've noticed: * Spotlight no longer finds things as easily. I used to use it for everything. Since updating to El Capitan, it has missed some exact match folders. Planning to switch to Alfred. * iWork was gutted in '13. People used to use Pages professionally. I'm now using Pages '09, and planning to transition to Word or Latex. I tested Pages '13 intensively, and i…

Which mail application or webmail/browser did you switch to?

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It is not fair to single out Apple - all the software has gone downhill in the past couple of years - browsers, websites, apps, appliances, virtually everything. My suspicion is that it's the proliferation of new ways of doing things - new languages, no-sql/key-value db's, new hosting platforms such as AWS, docker, big data stuff like hadoop, storm and spark, all kinds of embedded software (tv's, cars), etc - we've g…

Agreed. Everything is more complex. Web apps is each iteration harder.. Native App development too (for example, .NET xaml is far harder than winforms and it than VB/Delphi).

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Another thing is the forced updates. Now you constantly get nagged about updates on iOS, almost daily, even if you have learnt your lesson and decided not to upgrade your phone's OS because Apple WILL eventually slow your phone down.

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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I agree. I won't write a list of the problems in detail, but I've been a Mac user since the 80's because I've always preferred Apple's elegant design and ease of use. But lately, it's hard to figure out how to do things, and it's very buggy. Both I and my son have had to reset our phones to fix problems. It looks like my wife will have to reset hers to deal with a problem with music synchronization. And the design as…

Good UIs have discoverability, but increasingly the software has - whatever the opposite of discoverability is. Simple example: Mail tries to guess settings for you. If you don't want it to do this - it regularly gets them wrong - you have to uncheck a box in the Advanced tab for every account you have. (Because obviously, that's where you're going to look.) Then, instead of making the change, you have to click any o…

Setting up a plain IMAP account in Apple Mail is so much harder than it should be. It used to keep the wrongly guessed settings, even if you overwrote them, so you'd have to delete the account and start over for it to actually work.

Also their usage of words like "account", "mailbox" and "folder" never ceases to confuse me...

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A lot of awful software shipped under Steve Jobs. X Code has always been a buggy mess, iTunes bloated greatly under Steve (remember Ping?), iMovie '08, etc etc.

Jobs didn't care about Xcode. iTunes was decent or even good. He hated social and reluctantly allowed Ping to go forward. iMovie is a tiny niche. I agree with OP. There is no way Steve would have allowed some of the current stuff to see the light of day.

> iTunes was decent or even good

You clearly never used iTunes for Windows.

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It's less about Snow Leopard having been supposedly perfect and more about how OS X feels like it's just floundered around randomly since then. In fact, for me, I can honestly say that OS X has almost strictly regressed in terms of my day-to-day experience. Spotlight now covers up way too much of the screen for almost no gain; if I'd wanted that, I'd have just used Alfred. Mission Control is still not as powerful and…

It's less about Snow Leopard having been supposedly perfect and more about how OS X feels like it's just floundered around randomly since then. Agreed. It's not that Snow Leopard was some magic release that can never be bettered, it's that it has never been bettered. I can't think of any new features since then that I really value in OS X. there was a day where I never wanted to touch Windows again I switched from Wi…

I have a Surface Book from work, and I hate the trackpad. It feels (just the default out of the box, no specific tweaking) that its "mushy"-it feels like there's more resistance moving my fingers around on it than my MBP.

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> it’s tragic that Aperture and iPhoto were axed in favor of the horrifically bad Photos app (that looks like some Frankenstein “iOS X” app) I find Photos.app to be the best Apple app I've ever used. It's simple, modern, works amazingly well between iOS and OS X, transparently manages 100GB of data between iCloud and local storage. This entire piece is surfing on Mossberg's take and goes way too far. From what we kno…

There are more pc's running windows 10 than there are macs in operation, so microsoft definitely does updates at the scale of os x and beyond.

Personally, i don't feel that apple's software quality is getting worse, but then it has always been a mixed bag for me. I found the apple quality halo to be a bit of a myth across the half dozen apple devices i own. Seems comparable to windows' quality.

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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I suspect this reflects a wider trend which is most probably a consequence of the ease to ship software nowadays (no need to manufacture physical medium anymore, just ship a hotfix), which incites software companies to skip QA and let early adopters find the bugs themselves...

Re: Apple’s declining software quality

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The decline seems real to me. A shortlist of things I've noticed: * Spotlight no longer finds things as easily. I used to use it for everything. Since updating to El Capitan, it has missed some exact match folders. Planning to switch to Alfred. * iWork was gutted in '13. People used to use Pages professionally. I'm now using Pages '09, and planning to transition to Word or Latex. I tested Pages '13 intensively, and i…

Wi-Fi issues is a big one. I had a MacBook that stopped connecting when on OSX, even over reboots.

I had to reboot the access point in the end so perhaps it wasn't an Apple problem. Yet no other devices were having issues and I've not had a problem with it since it's been running Windows.

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