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Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by Pxtl »

Yetanfou wrote: post #106
Pxtl wrote: post #63

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I keep wishing somebody would make an airmouse with buttons configured to simulate common touch-gestures - like put a d-pad on it for swipe up/down/left/right, and a scrollwheel simulating pinch zooms. Google keeps trying to get vendors to support their half-forgotten TV oses GoogleTV/AndroidTV, but it seems like it would be simpler to just make a peripheral that emulates the common touch actions and use let Android…

You have a mobile phone, I assume? With a touchscreen? Which does multi-touch? And the thing sports a bluetooth adapter? In that case all you need is a program running on that phone, emulating you 'airmouse'. No need for more hardware, just use what you have. The same works for a 'normal' PC, btw. I know there are several apps for Android which can provide this service, I guess the same is true for the other contende…

Mostly thinking about my kids on that one, as they don't own phones.

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Post by rahimnathwani »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #107
huac wrote: post #99

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Nearly all of that is the same as Xiaomi's EULA: http://www.mi.com/my/about/agreement/

Perhaps it is legal boilerplate for People's Republic of China companies. Consider that an American EULA might require a "worldwide, sublicenseable, irrevocable [...]" user content license, and forbid activites illegal in the USA.

"Perhaps it is legal boilerplate for People's Republic of China companies."

It seems like that text is from this government web site: http://www.cac.gov.cn/2015-02/04/c_1114246561.htm

e.g. "宣扬邪教和封建迷信的" is roughly the same as the "promoting cults and superstitions" found in the EULA.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by rahimnathwani »

huac wrote: post #110
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #107

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Perhaps it is legal boilerplate for People's Republic of China companies. Consider that an American EULA might require a "worldwide, sublicenseable, irrevocable [...]" user content license, and forbid activites illegal in the USA.

the weird thing is that I don't see those terms in any other searchable, English language EULA.

Did you look only at EULAs for downloadable software, or more broadly? How about the ones below?

http://www.canon.com.cn/corp/csr/delightedimage/education/en...

https://www.adxmi.com/terms

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by petecox »

lovelearning wrote: post #34
petecox wrote: post #31

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Are you running the same architecture? assuming Remix is a 32 bit download. e.g. I have previously had problems with virtualbox and a 32 bit guest on a 64 bit host (old cpu/chipset combo)

I made that mistake initially, and then saw the "_64" in ISO filename. But still couldn't make it work on an Ubuntu host, only on a Win7 host. I suspect it was a Virtualbox bug.

Probably not the virtualization but rather the hardware support of the OS.

I tried booting it on 2 physical machines - It runs on my NUC but crashed on my laptop.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by petecox »

dharma1 wrote: post #27
matt_morgan wrote: post #26

I have a little box for my TV running Android. The issue with all the apps is that 90% (looking mostly at games, I guess) of them more or less expect gestural input, and are either really difficult to play or just not fun with a mouse. I doubt that particular issue is as bad in productivity apps etc., but there's a lot more to running a mobile app on a big screen than just resizing a window. Does this have some magic…

It's really up to app developers to make sure their apps work ok (provide fallbacks if gesture heavy) for mouse. I think we are in a period where Android is just starting to get used with mouse so I'd expect it to take a bit of time for things get in shape for mouse users. Some apps work better than others

Mouse support in the OS has been there a while, a friend had one of the early Asus Transformers some 4 years ago with a trackpad.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by petecox »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #15

Hmm, it requires legacy boot. I wonder why it doesn't support UEFI? Makes it hard for me to test this on the devices I would want to use it with. EDIT: More research. Results: There is an EFI system on this image, but it has a corrupted GPT. I fixed it with gdisk and I ran into some issues trying to boot it via EFI shell on one of my netbooks. My libreboot laptop was able to boot it but it gets stuck during bootup. D…

My laptop that had BIOS only got to the bootloader and crashed soon after doing the disk write test. My NUC is set to UEFI but only successfully ran by manually selecting it in legacy, as you say.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by petecox »

Anyone want a review?

Bad problems booting certain machines data partition creation very slow no Google Play

Good eventually boots! wifi and bluetooth work can configure layout for external keyboard f-droid works firefox has reasonable keyboard shortcuts

Ugly multi-monitor support - screen mirroring only no multiple screens and rotation support apps not designed for mouse input - right/middle click or drag and drop app install of apks a little flakey inbuilt browser very basic graphics rendering slower than X11

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by david-given »

digi_owl wrote: post #82
david-given wrote: post #53

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I used to use Android on an old netbook --- a Toshiba AC100, ARM-based with 512MB of RAM. The netbook originally shipped with Gingerbread and was practically unusable, but after I upgraded it to Honeycomb it was a really rather comfortable thing to use. I had Debian running in a chroot on it, so I got a combination of the Android UI with a proper Linux environment underneath it. This meant that stuff like wifi and qu…

Seems that Android may be heading back towards Honeycomb, given that the 6.0.1 release put the buttons in the screen corners (back and home bottom left, switcher bottom right). Never mind that 5.0 or something put in a notification shade that was more useful on larger screens. The biggest problem with Android right now is perhaps the release cadence, and that Google sticks to it even if it means shipping half baked f…

For my purposes, the current biggest problem with Android is that it's diverging more and more from desktop Linux; the security model is now sufficiently different that a Debian userland basically won't run. (selinux errors when doing anything with apt.)

I used pchroot for a while, which was magical --- it fakes a superuser chroot in a normal user account --- but there's something about recent Androids it doesn't like and it's stopped working for me.

The switch to a Chromebook was partly because of this. Crouton seems at least semi-blessed, although recent Chromebooks with Freon no longer support running X in a new VT. (You instead pass through X to a Chrome tab.)

Re: RemixOS for PC released

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Post by javipas »

dizzyviolet wrote: post #85

Just booted it. The EULA is frightening to say the least. 1. "You agree that you irrevocably waive any and all ownership, legal and moral rights to your user content." 2. You're also not allowed to oppose "the basic principles determined in the Constitution of the People's Republic of China", harm it's "national honor and interests", or undermine it's "national religious policy, promoting cults and superstitions". 3.…

Thanks for pointing this out. I've written about this in Xataka (http://www.xataka.com/servicios/remix-os-promete-pero-su-lic...), where I work as editor, and after getting in contact with Jide's team they've let us known that these terms apply only to China and that they will update the EULA:

"Thank you for bringing this to our attention. In full disclosure, we utilized the language (relevant to China and China only) and copied it over to the EULA for our international ROM. Our legal team has now reviewed this and has removed all language pertaining to legal and moral rights of the data as well as anything that mentions the Chinese government as this is not relevant to non-Chinese users. This is a very serious matter and will be corrected in all future releases of the EULA."

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