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Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt

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Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt

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Post by dcosson »

colinbartlett wrote: post #106
mindcrime wrote: post #59

I will definitely use this over ProductHunt. I mean, for crying out loud, I signed up for PH just now to leave a comment and the first thing you get is "commenting is restricted to those users invited by others in the community". Yeah, so I have to supplicate myself to some random Internet stranger and beg permission just to comment on your site? Not happening...

I signed up for Product Hunt more than a year ago and still do not have commenting access. My product was submitted by someone and featured even! And I wasn't able to respond or interact with the "community" in any way.

You can tweet at them when your product is on the front page and they'll give you comment access (at least they did for me and a few others I know). But yeah, overall it's crazy that you still can't comment there.

Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt

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Post by jacquesc »

nikolay wrote: post #115
richardbrevig wrote: post #99

I love this! "Login unsuccessful. Something went wrong: Error: api_calls exceeding plan authorized calls" when I went to log in with Twitter. Good problem for you to have, I look forward to you working this out so I can participate. Honestly, I only signed up for Twitter to join Product Hunt. That was a huge disappointment when I found out that having an account didn't mean anything. This will be a pleasant change, i…

They rely on OAuth.io [0] for something trivial as Twitter auth. I'm disappointed! The limits of the free service of OAuth.io [1] are ridiculously low, too. [0] https://oauth.io/ [1] https://oauth.io/home/pricing

thank you! i thought it was twitter then your comment made me realize oauth.io was blocking us.

i'm dumb for using them but it did save time (i think). we'll remove it soon and go back to a more direct oauth strategy

Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt

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Post by jacquesc »

tarr11 wrote: post #91

Tried to join: Login unsuccessful. Something went wrong: Error: api_calls exceeding plan authorized calls

fixed! my own boneheaded error. twitter was fine, but the hosted oauth provider we used wanted money before it would work

Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt

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Post by colinbartlett »

dcosson wrote: post #122
colinbartlett wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I signed up for Product Hunt more than a year ago and still do not have commenting access. My product was submitted by someone and featured even! And I wasn't able to respond or interact with the "community" in any way.

You can tweet at them when your product is on the front page and they'll give you comment access (at least they did for me and a few others I know). But yeah, overall it's crazy that you still can't comment there.

Actually, I did. And they didn't respond nor grant access:

https://twitter.com/statusgator/status/582633562559512576

Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt

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Post by kristianc »

slg wrote: post #117
msvan wrote: post #41

The idea is nice, but cynical me can't escape the idea that Product Hunt is successful in part because it is a mirror of reality, where capital and connections are the reigning currency. If you create a platform where capital and connections are deprioritized, you will not attract the people who have that in real life, making it less useful as a promotion venue.

And maybe it is the cynical contrarian in me, but I think the "real world" aspect of Product Hunt it what turned me off of the site before these issues even came to the forefront. It always seemed like an echo chamber were everyone was putting up a facade. Users seemed more concerned with the people behind products and networking with them than actually offering opinions of what was posted. I find the more internet-l…

I hadn't thought of it this way before.

Sure, it's slightly depressing that the top comment on a HN thread always seems to always be a takedown (especially when the post cites data and the comment is 'From my experience..') but the alternative is pretty terrible.

Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt

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Post by jacquesc »

livejamie wrote: post #37
jacquesc wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2 reasons initially: - prevent too much spam, moderation workload - encourage honest (harsh) feedback that the product owner can take action on. also if the same feedback comes in twice from 2 diff people, thats a great indicator. public comments do not allow that (since most people wont duplicate a comment if they already see someone else saying it)

Comments are one of the main ways you're going to foster a community. An alternative would be to allow comments to be shown privately or to have a messaging/mail system. Hiding them by default is a big mistake.

agreed, we'll be adding public comments to the site soon (in addition to private feedback)
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