I was so excited when I saw this post. Then I realized it's another 'too early' post claiming the tag == release. It's not released until it happens on the PHP site. This is just a tag in the repo. Sure, it likely won't change now, but it could.
Correct, it's not likely to change at this point. Official release is slated for Dec 3 according to their Twitter[1], so it appears they are getting everything ready to launch.
Wordpress alone runs 25%+ of all websites. PHP's time is clearly still now. I probably won't bother with PHP, but it can't hurt to keep my idea of what it's like up to date. It's only technology, no need to be fanatical about it.
Just because a lot of sites run it doesn't mean it's not crap. A lot of companies still host stuff on Windows like it's still 2002, as well. PHP has no place in modern development.
Wordpress alone runs 25%+ of all websites. PHP's time is clearly still now. I probably won't bother with PHP, but it can't hurt to keep my idea of what it's like up to date. It's only technology, no need to be fanatical about it.
To be fair, don't just down vote the parent comment because your don't like someone bashing php; it's a pretty reasonable question to ask. Most people don't actually know that php powers such a large portion of the internet, because globally there's waning interest in php ( http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/PHP.ht... ) and it's generally dreaded by developers ( http://stackoverflow.com/research/de…
Not arguing, just saying that for example London continuously offers lots of good php contract opportunities. Day rates are slightly less compared to some other tech (mostly tech used in finance), but still decent. It is still very popular in media, e-commerce, publishing, with digital agencies and in various other fields.
Cardboard furniture is great for moving. And for some pieces of furniture is perfectly OK (if you can stand the massive look). They do "regular" furniture as well, not sure about its quality though.
> Cardboard furniture is great for moving. It isn't because moving implies taking stuff apart and putting it back together again. As you'll find after your move screws won't catch any more, some of your furniture will have been compressed (holes in table surfaces? WTF?, yes this actually happened to me less than 3 months ago). Surface finish is 1/10th of a mm so it'll scratch super easy. That's their 'regular' furnit…
My "cardboard" furniture has solid blocks where screws go. Not wood, but some sort of plywood or something.
I have an ikea bed and rack that is made from wood. Lots of their furniture is regular wood. The cheap ones usually untreated.
I think the question is why should you bother with PHP at all? It had its time in the history of the web but that time has passed, long, long ago.
Wordpress alone runs 25%+ of all websites. PHP's time is clearly still now. I probably won't bother with PHP, but it can't hurt to keep my idea of what it's like up to date. It's only technology, no need to be fanatical about it.
Cobol is still in use. That doesn't make it good.
PHP is a poorly written language. From comparisons to namespaces to other gotchas, it's just pigs guts. From the ground up, it's a badly designed language. Look up "Fractal of bad design" for a better understanding of why.
I am an experienced programmer but I've only touched PHP a few times, years ago. What are the best books or tutorials to get an overview of modern PHP?
I think the question is why should you bother with PHP at all? It had its time in the history of the web but that time has passed, long, long ago.
I could've done that but that wouldn't have taught the same things. PDO is awesome but requires deeper level of understanding (for a beginner), which may increase the frustration and may end up returning back to the mysql_query and co. It's easier point to framework that's already using PDO and and making sane defaults and solving bootstrapping problems. Once you've learned bunch of new concepts like ORM in one frame…
Agree, then again there are different types of people. Some wants to learn from bottom up(analytic approach), others want to see cool stuff then tweak, modify, replace to find the limits (holistic approach). IIRC there is a tendency that young people prefer the holistic approach while teachers either are selected for or grow into preferring the analytical approach.
Really good point! Most of us veterans assume that because we have learned things the hard way and from bottom up, everybody else should learn like that.
"Make them suffer like us and they will learn the holy truth" ;D
Wordpress alone runs 25%+ of all websites. PHP's time is clearly still now. I probably won't bother with PHP, but it can't hurt to keep my idea of what it's like up to date. It's only technology, no need to be fanatical about it.
Just because a lot of sites run it doesn't mean it's not crap. A lot of companies still host stuff on Windows like it's still 2002, as well. PHP has no place in modern development.
You do realize that the number 2 ranked website on the internet runs on PHP.
Get over your elitest attitude. PHP is a fine language and has it's warrants of use.
Speaking of, 2 days ago marked a year since I last used PHP.