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Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

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Having worked in some form BI for almost the entirety of my career now, there is not a single, consistent form of BI dashboard that is prevalent across any company. Every solution ends up being unique, because every company has a unique data set-up, stakeholders, definition of metrics, and access needs. I've worked with Tableau, Domo, Oracle products, you name it. What's the solution that is passed around the most? E…

Isn't that exactly what TM1 does?

Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

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post #2

At first glance, this seems like a Tableau competitor. So I'm surprised to see Tableau listed as a partner.

Looker ( http://www.looker.com ), Periscope ( http://www.periscope.io ), Mode Analytics ( http://www.modeanalytics.com ), and Chart.io ( http://www.chart.io ) should probably be even more worried than Tableau.

And IBM's BI product

Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

#123
post #9

I've been working exclusively in implementing BI solutions for the past five years. The thing that depresses me the most is not that BI solutions take forever to implement and cost a lot, but that clients many times just don't understand the data they are trying to report on. Many times it leads to over-engineered BI solutions just for one report that a client says is mission critical, but is never used. I'm sure mor…

Forget the data. Many companies don't even understand their own processes . I've gone to so many HR departments and asked them how their hiring process works and met blank stares, because there wasn't a single person who knew the entire process from start to finish. Each individual knew bits and pieces, and made assumptions on how the rest of the process worked. Even though my main role is software implementation (en…

> Each individual knew bits and pieces, and made assumptions on how the rest of the process worked.

There are at least two ways that can come about:

1. laziness/apathy/incompetence

2. Someone in a more senior position culling anyone who knows too much or works too hard

I've seen a lot of both.

Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

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post #108
post #26

Having worked in some form BI for almost the entirety of my career now, there is not a single, consistent form of BI dashboard that is prevalent across any company. Every solution ends up being unique, because every company has a unique data set-up, stakeholders, definition of metrics, and access needs. I've worked with Tableau, Domo, Oracle products, you name it. What's the solution that is passed around the most? E…

Excel also has a pretty easy to understand xml import, At my a new gig I've just avoided having to write add 'just one more report' to the fragile homebrew report designer by letting people pull out structured data and make their own reports. Code required was trivial & the risk was super low as we could just use existing API methods to get the XML out. This has caught my eye though, so I'll have a tinker in the morn…

I'd be interested to learn more about this, I've never heard of anyone importing XML into Excel before - typically "flat files" or SQL datasets are imported into an Excel table, upon which you can quickly build a pivot table, etc. Are you pulling in nested data?

Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

#125
post #9

I've been working exclusively in implementing BI solutions for the past five years. The thing that depresses me the most is not that BI solutions take forever to implement and cost a lot, but that clients many times just don't understand the data they are trying to report on. Many times it leads to over-engineered BI solutions just for one report that a client says is mission critical, but is never used. I'm sure mor…

There is an interesting phenomenon that I've noticed about BI: By the time data is appropriately gathered, cleaned, aggregated, and presented, the data is so closely aligned to the decision process that the decisions themselves might as well be automated and optimized. But that never happens. We build reports so that executives can look at them and feel important while they make slower and less optimal decisions than…

Whilst I agree with the feeling, I think a lot of BI devs have a tendency to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Decision making is a complex process. The graphs and data fed to the executive via BI are just inputs to the deep net of his brain, which has been trained on the "data" absorbed over decades of experience. The objectives themselves are not simple to model - management is a delicate balancing act between competing stakeholders. The job of the BI professional is not to just produce what he is told, but to figure out what problem the person making the request is trying to solve, and then solve it in the simplest way possible. Occasionally this requires teaching them some things.

Taking an example: imagine you have an engine vibrating normally. You want to set up an alarm that rings if the engine vibrates abnormally - specifically, adding a new frequency to the existing signal (maybe it indicates a screw is coming off or something). You can feed the signal as is to your algorithm, or you can put it through a FFT in which case the "signal" is just a bunch of peaks at each frequency, and your algorithm is literally just a switch (if peak at frequency f reaches amplitude A, trigger alarm). The switch is orders of magnitude simpler, cognitively, than the algorithm that is fed the raw signal; it's also likely to be more accurate. Feature engineering is almost the most important part of statistical learning.

The executive is like the alarm - pre-processing the signal is your job. They are used to simple tools, usually univariate and linear, at a stretch, some can deal with simple polynomials. The better you pre-process the signal, the easier it becomes for the executive to make a correct decision by associating the new data to whatever decades of experience he trained his brain on.

A concrete example: let's say your CMO has asked you to give him vouchers and new customers for the last 6 months. He's clearly trying to establish the relationship between his voucher campaigns and new customers. You can give him the vouchers and the new customers, daily/weekly/whatever, and put it on a nice Tableau graph and give it to him and forget about it... or you can confirm that the problem he is looking to solve is indeed the relationship between his campaigns and new customers.

At which point you ask why new customers? And you find that he has a theory that gaining new customers is the best way to increase revenue, and the objective of the company is to increase revenue (due to incoming fundraising round whose valuation is based on revenue and revenue growth), but it is short term cash flow constrained (hence looking at vouchers instead of, say, marketing spend).

Since he probably doesn't know that a model can have more than one variable, you explain that to him and brainstorm what other variables might impact revenue growth. Assuming you're trying to predict new customers per income statement dollar and new customers per cash flow dollar, you might find that online marketing spend and season are two significant variables, and that there is a significant interaction term between vouchers and marketing spend of certain types. It's now your job to explain that "formula" - standard error of coefficients included - to the executive, and brainstorm what output is required to make him be able to quickly check how this input has changed over time (which might just be.. an alarm). You'll also have to explain the measure of fit you are using (R-squared almost always wins by virtue of being very intuitive).

And of course, this is what I identify as the gap that none of these BI products can ever hope to fill. You need someone technical with full grasp over all the data sources of the company - AND the implicit and explicit data model of the business - who also happens to be continuously involved with management discussions and at least moderately aware of the business. Most companies have a set up whereby the BI team is some sort of self-service restaurant where the executive swoops in, gets his request processed, and swoops back out. Many prefer hiring young, inexperienced BI staff because BI is seen as a cost centre, and because the way they "scale" requests is by adding headcount. One offshoot of this is that the executive starts wanting a Tableau, something will all the data neatly prepared that can be drag and dropped into the 1-dimensional models that he uses to pre-process his company data.

The upshoot is that it's not that executives are stupid, but more along the lines of GIGO. Without the tools required to make sense of the signals they receive, executives cannot make the right decisions even if they have the right experience and thinking. I suspect a large part of why more experienced executives are smarter is that they learn to spot trends over decades of experience based on very simple signals; for example, an experienced hedge fund manager will sniff out a fraudulent company much faster than someone who has just started, just by looking at the financial reports.

Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How was this different from when Apple anncouned new iPhones, iPads and Apple TV's last month? It's not. I'm not sure why you're asking this.

Are you implying that all of the big tech companies are paying for upvotes on hackernews? Do you think that's more likely than a tech focused news site thinking that these events have interesting announcements?

I would be extremely surprised if a site devoted to monetizing tech ideas didn't try to monetize their tech idea.

Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

#127
post #40

Looks similar to Power BI. https://powerbi.microsoft.com/en-us/features

The Power BI is an incredible product - thanks for listing it here... unreal! Coming from SAP/BusinessObjects products which are generally overweight and expensive, Power BI nails it... Price is free, they offer a download for Windows, web app and appears to have a mobile app. Worth a try. In 5 minutes, I had a dashboard built out of exported data from our accounting system...

Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

#128
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is an interesting phenomenon that I've noticed about BI: By the time data is appropriately gathered, cleaned, aggregated, and presented, the data is so closely aligned to the decision process that the decisions themselves might as well be automated and optimized. But that never happens. We build reports so that executives can look at them and feel important while they make slower and less optimal decisions than…

This is the heart and soul of quantitative investment management.

Interesting. Mind going more in-depth?

Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

#129
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon has been busy, but I still have to go with Satya Nadella. Since he's gotten the job in early 2014, Microsoft has shipped amazing things. Many of his decisions have helped redefine company culture, for the better. Amazon has shipped a lot, but I think the new Microsoft has a bigger impact. Off the top of my head: open-sourcing .NET, SSH to Windows, Surface product line, Hololens development, Windows 10 (hit a f…

Satya has made some huge changes, and they're moving, but it's a beast of a company to push. Win 10 still has a chance to hit a home run and make his name, but only if hard decisions are made. That 6.63% market share could be easily 25%+ right now, somethings gone wrong and they need to look at that and fix before users find the alternatives.

Oh please, somethings gone wrong? Maybe the 56.53% of Windows 7 users are like me and are perfectly happy with the way things are.

Re: Amazon QuickSight – Business Intelligence by AWS

#130

There are so many BI tools around that it's hard to figure out which solution is going to be best for a particular use case. Creating further confusion, it seems like most "enterprise" BI products aren't explained properly on their websites and are hidden behind "request a demo". It's nearly impossible to evaluate all the possibilities without going crazy. I want to be able to generate my domain models in some way. P…

I think the big issue with "bi" is that the term is just too broadly applied to be meaningful anymore. Every piece of software with a chart in it somewhere is billed as BI these days and moreover if you ask 10 business users what they want out of their BI system you'll get descriptions of several very different tools which all happen to produce charts. I'm sorry to say I've seen countless businesses deeply disappointed in their BI tools simply because they assumed since "it's a BI tool" it will do X,Y,Z when in reality there are a bunch of different classes of tools to choose from with very different features. The few options that really cover the spectrum are extremely complex and costly to really get value from over the long term. There's a reason why the analyst industry exists - it's just too much damn work to suss out what all these tools actually do on your own.

I make BI tools for a living and I am still struggling to really do a great job classifying all these types of functionality and communicating it well enough to lead customers to the tools they really need.

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