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Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Post by stephenr »

LoSboccacc wrote: post #117
stephenr wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The browser share graph shows Safari is second only to Chrome globally. The page has a new item saying 'Safari accounted for over half of US mobile and tablet usage in March', so I don't understand your "relatively tiny market share" point.

> half of US mobile and tablet usage the point is SPECIFICALLY about 'desktop+tablet+mobile' market share. not among mobile alone, because ad revenue is not factored on mobile views only as well. you need to select the all browser from the dropdown.

You need to re-read what I wrote.

You claimed:

> apple is very late to the game and has a relatively tiny market share when compared all browser usage among all platform when including desktop

The GRAPH shows Safari second only to Chrome, with 12% vs 45% usage across all devices, globally.

How exactly is #2 browser worldwide "relatively tiny" ?

In addition, I commented that there is a NEWS item which says Safari has >50% of mobile/tablet usage. This was merely an interesting counterpoint to your "tiny market share" point, given that it's widely accepted that average people are using mobile devices to access the internet more than ever, and it's increasing.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Post by draugadrotten »

0942v8653 wrote: post #104
tomp wrote: post #94

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Ultimately, that's exactly what we (the users) want - in particular, becayse cookies are per-domain only, this prevents any and all cross-domain tracking.

Not really… Browser fingerprinting is getting more and more accurate—you'll be amazed at how unique your browser is: https://panopticlick.eff.org

Is there any extension to make my browser apepar less unique?

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Post by ubercow13 »

roosterjm2k2 wrote: post #116
stephenr wrote: post #43

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So use an ad network that doesn't unnecessarily track me across the entire web, destroy my battery life, and make reading content (particularly on mobile) a game of 'find the article' amongst the shit storm of ads. The number of things that everyday sites embed in their pages is phenomenal. The Ghostery extension gives a good idea about how much crap gets loaded. In an article about content blockers, http://www.imore…

Do you not see the sense of entitlement in that? If the site has too many ads for your taste, simply don't visit that site. You have some sense that you are entitled to whatever efforts the site owner has committed to bring you content (obviously enough effort to be interesting to you) without supporting them through the ad service they chose. If you don't like their ads, you could simply move on, but now you're taki…

Once you get a chance to decide if the page's ads are to your liking, though, you have already been tracked and had the ad network's code executed on your machine.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Post by stephenr »

roosterjm2k2 wrote: post #116
stephenr wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So use an ad network that doesn't unnecessarily track me across the entire web, destroy my battery life, and make reading content (particularly on mobile) a game of 'find the article' amongst the shit storm of ads. The number of things that everyday sites embed in their pages is phenomenal. The Ghostery extension gives a good idea about how much crap gets loaded. In an article about content blockers, http://www.imore…

Do you not see the sense of entitlement in that? If the site has too many ads for your taste, simply don't visit that site. You have some sense that you are entitled to whatever efforts the site owner has committed to bring you content (obviously enough effort to be interesting to you) without supporting them through the ad service they chose. If you don't like their ads, you could simply move on, but now you're taki…

So your suggestion is that instead of trying to convince these "publishers" (as people like to call them apparently) that they should use a less user-hostile ad/analytics solution, we should all just boycott their publications completely?

I bet they'd all love that - no visitors because of their shitty ad network choices, thus no costs right. They can eat their own failed dreams for dinner.

Is this the ad-blocking equivalent of "if you don't like the laws here, go to a different country" ??

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Post by danbee »

LargeCompanies wrote: post #38

Is it just me or does it seem Apple is trying to put a hurt on Google and in turn hurt the web simultaneously. Safari has so many awful bugs that it's reminding me of the days of when you had to develop specifically for IE6. Such tactics are reminiscent of when Microsoft ruled the land and well that didnt turn out so great for MS.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2015/09/16/because-of-apple

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Post by monochromatic »

tomtang0514 wrote: post #68
stephenr wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So use an ad network that doesn't unnecessarily track me across the entire web, destroy my battery life, and make reading content (particularly on mobile) a game of 'find the article' amongst the shit storm of ads. The number of things that everyday sites embed in their pages is phenomenal. The Ghostery extension gives a good idea about how much crap gets loaded. In an article about content blockers, http://www.imore…

You have no idea about ad network at all. "unnecessarily track"? Tracking is the only way to make the ad relevant to you and increase the ad's value so you actually see fewer ads and those ads fund better content. Without any tracking, you gonna see at least tripled amount of ads on the most popular websites today in order to generate same amount of revenue. And BTW, everything between "you land on a webpage" and "ad…

I didn't ask for relevant ads or privacy intrusions. And if your business model can be demolished by a bit of code that lets me selectively decide what I'm willing to view, it was never a good model anyway.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Post by Nexxxeh »

buffoon wrote: post #90
Yetanfou wrote: post #89

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Is your device rooted? If so, install AdAway (from the fdroid repo) or a similar host-based blocker. This takes care of a large part of the ad-related misery. I do run Firefox (well, Fennec, really, minus the obnoxious bits which Mozilla has been slipping in recently) on a 4 year old Motorola Defy. The battery lasts for about 5 days so I don't think that bit about FF 'drink[ing] battery' is correct, at least not in m…

No it's not rooted and I can't deploy our device policy on rooted devices (this is a company phone; a moto g 3rd gen). I had terrible battery problems on a moto g2 about a year ago which is what I'm basing my opinion on so that may be invalid now.

Oh man, what a difference a year makes. I gave up on FF when it was a freshly laid turd. I tried it again a few months back on a recommendation from HN. Whoa. They've managed to polish it into a diamond.

You'd have to prize Firefox and uBlock (on my first gen Moto G) out of my cold dead hands.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Post by hmage »

Flow wrote: post #96
Frqy3 wrote: post #50

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Also, lagging page loading to allow the auctioning of ad space a bit longer to run to hopefully extract a slightly higher price.

There's an auction happening for each client request?

Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_bidding

Common.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Post by DavideNL »

bbayer wrote: post #40

I am curious how this will impact the web. Ads are the only revenue stream for most of the sites. Blocking ads is good for user experience but when you think from publishers site how will they survive? "I like ads because I can support people I like without even spending a dime" said one of my friends. I cannot agree more because there are plenty of people on mid and small scale try to earn living with the content th…

Apple iOS 9 ad-blocking explained (and why it's a bad move): http://twitter.com/JonyIveParody/status/611482506400014336/p...
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