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Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Anyone here know much about Windows licensing? This seems like a good opportunity to ask. I never run Windows on bare metal. I only run Windows on virtual machines on my Mac desktop and Mac laptop; only for personal use; and only on the rare occasion when I need to run the odd Windows-only application. I would like to go legit this time around, but it's nigh-impossible to find any specific documentation from Microsof…

> Microsoft expects me to buy a separate, full Windows license for each virtual machine I create That is indeed the case. Otherwise you can buy licenses meant for ISPs and cloud-hosting providers. Your "personal use of multiple VMs" is simply not contemplated. You could probably get by with a MSDN subscription, which gives you some leeway.

Thanks for the reply. What does an MSDN subscription permit with respect to running multiple VMs?

Edit: sounds like pretty much whatever you want.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Looking at the deprecated features that won't make it to Windows 10 I see: > Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the “Microsoft Solitaire Collection” and “Microsoft Minesweeper.” Does anyone else find it kind of sad that they killed off the old…

I really don't care about this, why should we expect MS to support their 20 years old software? Back in '95 internet was not that common so it was nice to have such time wasters built into the OS. On the other hand, including Minecraft would be a really interesting decision.

Because for years Microsoft built up a reputation for supporting old software and old APIs. Read Raymond Chen's Old New Thing blog for some anecdotes about the amazing lengths they would go internally to keep old software working. Like with the classic game Sim City they realized its code was buggy and using uninitialized memory, so the Windows team wrote a special case to detect when Sim City runs and emulate an older compatible memory allocator. It's not really clear if MS today cares about supporting software like they used to.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about what "can" be done, you can also install the pirated software too, the thing is, by buying legally Windows 7 or Windows 8 Media Pack or Ultimate I have really paid the DVD playback functionality to Microsoft as well as the other features I've mentioned. Also read about the legality aspects of the Microsoft's DVD solutions up to now and of the open-source DVD players: http://www.zdnet.com/article/if-vlc…

I don't get it... are you complaining that you were revoked a license to a software that came bundled with windows?

In the EU, Microsoft sells the N edition [http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows7/products/what-is...], Windows sans Media Player. Thus, if you have selected the normal version, you are actually paying for Media and DVD playing capabilities.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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post #85

Anyone here know much about Windows licensing? This seems like a good opportunity to ask. I never run Windows on bare metal. I only run Windows on virtual machines on my Mac desktop and Mac laptop; only for personal use; and only on the rare occasion when I need to run the odd Windows-only application. I would like to go legit this time around, but it's nigh-impossible to find any specific documentation from Microsof…

According to http://download.microsoft.com/Documents/UseTerms/Windows%207...

    Use with Virtualization Technologies. Instead of using the software directly on the licensed
    computer, you may install and use the software within only one virtual (or otherwise emulated)
    hardware system on the licensed computer.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Let's hope Windows 10 is a big hit with PC users. Consumers trade in those old XP boxes and hundreds of millions take the free upgrade. Then maybe within 24 months lots of old IE's will fade away. https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qpr... Edge appears to be a much better browser: https://html5test.com/results/desktop.html

The upgrade is not free for XP users.

or Vista users. If you've got a Windows system that actually badly needs upgrading, you're still [not] going to pay for it.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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post #85

Anyone here know much about Windows licensing? This seems like a good opportunity to ask. I never run Windows on bare metal. I only run Windows on virtual machines on my Mac desktop and Mac laptop; only for personal use; and only on the rare occasion when I need to run the odd Windows-only application. I would like to go legit this time around, but it's nigh-impossible to find any specific documentation from Microsof…

Microsoft expects me to buy a separate, full Windows license for each virtual machine I create, for each host machine I run it on.

Yes, that's what the license says.

In practice, what corporate VM users do is get MSDN licenses, which are assigned to the developer. I have one. It's basically a license to not worry about licensing: I can run as many copies of whatever I like, so long as it's "for testing and development purposes". I think there's a different volume licensing programme available if, god help you, you wanted to run a production datacentre on Windows.

Edit: this is obviously a big reason why Windows is never going anywhere in the cloud space outside of Azure.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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I've been on the "insider preview" for a few weeks now, and I must say that I think Windows 10 is an absolutely amazing OS. Definitely the best Windows I've ever used. Also the best desktop OS I've ever used, but I hope you'll believe me about the "best Windows" even if you can't imagine why a developer would possible want to run something other than $YOUR_FAVOURITE_UNIX. If Windows 10 is as well-received as I expect…

My experience has been the opposite. To me Windows 10 is the continuation of the 8/8.1 trainwreck, with the ridiculous Metro skins, a broken start menu, the half-assed fragmentation of the UIs into Metro/non-Metro, ham-handed app store/online services integrations, and various new features that do not work. I'll be going back to Windows 7, in which at least the UI works. And really, the only thing keeping me attached…

Oh as a gamer you can better just get used to it, because of DirectX 12 games that will come in time.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably you have to do an in-place upgrade if you use these? I can't see any mention of what key I am supposed to use (from the reservation tool) if I want to do a fresh install.

From what I understand you have to first do an in-place upgrade, which then gives you access to your license key (via Windows system info or something similar). You can then use that to do a clean install. EDIT I've just read contradictory information here; http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/media-creation... If you upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer and success…

This is, tragically, how Microsoft OEM licensing works. It's presumably using the same machine identifier as "Genuine Advantage".
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