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Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by j-b »

coldpie wrote: post #105
tthayer wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The 2015 Mazda3 we just bought has a horrible info/nav system that crashes and frequently stops responding. I'm guessing the actual chance of it ever being fixed at 0%. Tesla's get an automatic OTA update that would fix that kind of thing and it wouldn't be something you'd have to 'deal' with for the rest of your ownership of the vehicle.

I will never buy a vehicle with both an infotainment system and a steering wheel. Subaru lost a sale of a brand new car when the dealer sat down, turned the key, and the radio showed.... a loading bar. Fuck that. I deal with shitty software enough everywhere else in my life. I'm not going to put up with that in a 4000lb piece of metal going 70 MPH.

So, did you end up buying a different vehicle? If so, which one?

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Post by raisedbyninjas »

tdicola wrote: post #85
bwilliams18 wrote: post #69

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I wouldn't describe the Atom as a true production car.

People build it and then you can exchange money to receive one, how does that not qualify as a production car? Some are even built in the US (by TMI) and you can find them at dealerships: http://arielatom.com/locate-dealer/ A friend has one and it's perfectly legal to license, register, and drive on the street in some states. It has all the federal auto requirements like indicators, brake lights, etc. and can even pa…

Most definitions of a production car require that they are mass produced rather than made to order as well as being an original design rather than an aftermarket mod of a production car. I'm not sure of the exact sales model of the Atom 500, but wikipedia says it was a limited edition with only 25 made. Calling it a production car would be generous.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by jakemoshenko »

coldpie wrote: post #105
tthayer wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The 2015 Mazda3 we just bought has a horrible info/nav system that crashes and frequently stops responding. I'm guessing the actual chance of it ever being fixed at 0%. Tesla's get an automatic OTA update that would fix that kind of thing and it wouldn't be something you'd have to 'deal' with for the rest of your ownership of the vehicle.

I will never buy a vehicle with both an infotainment system and a steering wheel. Subaru lost a sale of a brand new car when the dealer sat down, turned the key, and the radio showed.... a loading bar. Fuck that. I deal with shitty software enough everywhere else in my life. I'm not going to put up with that in a 4000lb piece of metal going 70 MPH.

Here I am trying to imagine a vehicle with infotainment but without a steering wheel. It raises so many questions!

Do you assume that we will purchase self driving cars frequently enough that the infotainment will keep pace? Do you anticipate purchasing a personal train or fighter jet? Do the handlebars on a motorcycle count as a steering wheel?

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by tashoecraft »

rjusher wrote: post #107
csours wrote: post #98

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The biggest issue at the moment is the limited range with battery only. Even after a large network of charging stations is created, the user experience for long trips is not ideal - up to 1/4 of driving time may be spent charging. The ownership paradigm may change at some point, but at the moment people like the idea of using their own car to go around town as well as going on vacation / see the parents / etc across…

You are completely right, even though I would like to own a car for my daily use, and a big car for trips and etc, is not feasible, for me at least, so I have to buy the best of both worlds. I disagree with the 1/4 of the time charging, with a solution like the Tesla's battery swap, it would be far less(I could be completely wrong in this).

Tesla may axe the battery swap: http://fortune.com/2015/06/10/teslas-battery-swap-is-dead/

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Post by chisleu »

csense wrote: post #33

I like the Spaceballs reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0

Incoming, "this isn't reddit" trolling. :)

I recently got to see this in the theater with my 6 year old. We have watched it at home dozens of times and he knows most of the big one liners. It was excellent. I love that the tesla team is willing to have so much fun with their upgrades. I can't wait until I can afford one.

Re: Tesla’s Model S Gets “Ludicrous” Mode, Will Do 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds

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Post by declan »

ProAm wrote: post #61
DanBlake wrote: post #12

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The GTR is 2.9 seconds, so the tesla is faster- Its also faster in the 1/4 mile as well, so this is kind of a big deal. I believe this is the fastest production car under 300k that you can buy.

> The GTR is 2.9 seconds, so the tesla is faster- Its also faster in the 1/4 mile as well, so this is kind of a big deal. Not until the Tesla goes around the Nurburgring in the same fashion the GTR did.[1][2] [1] http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/86123/fastest-nurburg... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nords...

>Not until the Tesla goes around the Nurburgring in the same fashion the GTR did.

Or manages to go around the Nurburgring at full power at all:

http://insideevs.com/expected-tesla-model-s-fails-lap-nurbur... “Unfortunately the car went into a reduced power mode about 3 minutes in due to excess battery heat (at least, that’s my guess). However, before it did it was able to keep a GT3 RS going full chat, within shouting distance (at the 2:00 mark) far longer than any 4,700lb sedan has a right to.

I think my next non-two seater car will be a Model S (fortunately I have a petrol-powered sports coupe to take to the track).

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Post by nicboobees »

stefanobernardi wrote: post #9

Even if not a software update, I still find Tesla's way of thinking of a car as an actual (continuously update/upgrade-able) product fascinating. Very rare for hardware. It gives an amazing user experience, "Hey restart your car and it's now got X and Y". Respect. Edit: clarifying the term "product".

This is an awful user experience though.

Look at mobile phones.

An old Nokia 3210 or something, just works. It does everything fine. It works as a phone. It was designed from start to finish, and built.

Compare that with Android. Every update they seem to break or remove some functionality. Endless software updates, restarting, etc. It was shipped with bugs, it'll always have bugs.

I'm not convinced this is an improvement. Also obviously has some pretty big consequences if the update system is hacked, or if there's critical bugs etc.

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Post by jrwoodruff »

nicboobees wrote: post #117
stefanobernardi wrote: post #9

Even if not a software update, I still find Tesla's way of thinking of a car as an actual (continuously update/upgrade-able) product fascinating. Very rare for hardware. It gives an amazing user experience, "Hey restart your car and it's now got X and Y". Respect. Edit: clarifying the term "product".

This is an awful user experience though. Look at mobile phones. An old Nokia 3210 or something, just works. It does everything fine. It works as a phone. It was designed from start to finish, and built. Compare that with Android. Every update they seem to break or remove some functionality. Endless software updates, restarting, etc. It was shipped with bugs, it'll always have bugs. I'm not convinced this is an improv…

If it's done poorly, of course it's a terrible experience. Restarting my car and it's suddenly faster and smarter? Sounds like a positive experience to me.

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Post by Thaxll »

DanBlake wrote: post #12
dxhdr wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's as fast as the Nissan GT-R, which coincidentally costs around the same price as the Tesla. https://www.google.com/search?q=nissan%20gt-r

The GTR is 2.9 seconds, so the tesla is faster- Its also faster in the 1/4 mile as well, so this is kind of a big deal. I believe this is the fastest production car under 300k that you can buy.

Well it's no big deal because the GTR is one league above in term of sport racing, this car is incredible on track, there is no way that Tesla will match that.

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Post by waterlesscloud »

jakemoshenko wrote: post #113
coldpie wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will never buy a vehicle with both an infotainment system and a steering wheel. Subaru lost a sale of a brand new car when the dealer sat down, turned the key, and the radio showed.... a loading bar. Fuck that. I deal with shitty software enough everywhere else in my life. I'm not going to put up with that in a 4000lb piece of metal going 70 MPH.

Here I am trying to imagine a vehicle with infotainment but without a steering wheel. It raises so many questions! Do you assume that we will purchase self driving cars frequently enough that the infotainment will keep pace? Do you anticipate purchasing a personal train or fighter jet? Do the handlebars on a motorcycle count as a steering wheel?

I'm trying to imagine a personal car without a steering wheel without an infotainment system.

Of course such vehicles will have infotainment. I've long been thinking about what sort of content would work best. Short, serialized content released on a weekday schedule would certainly be an opportunity. Perfect watercooler fodder.

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