Awesome to see more companies questioning Slack, and developing their own solutions!
Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
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Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
The IRC protocol might not be pretty, but what protocol is? HTTP? AMQP? XMPP? Protocols are not meant to be pretty, just efficient and robust enough to support the desired feature set. It's a shame that none of Slack, Hipchat, now Mattermost support IRC. They're all just IRC clones, drawing on the same ideas, just giving you a crappy (but pretty!) web interface.
Slack "supports" IRC in that you can allow IRC connections, and then people can connect to your Slack instance via IRC. This might also be the case for some of the alternatives. And it's a pain in the neck! It means that some of the participants in the channel are not able to read what's happened while they were away. Some of them get encoding errors. The IRC people do not get the same graphical elements as everybody…
>centralized logging
A logging program is just another IRC client. Problem solved.
Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
#113You know what else is a great open-source on-premises Slack alternative? Most IRCds.
You know what is nothing like Slack in functionality and you'd knew if you have used Slack? Most IRCds.
Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
#114I don't really get why there is so many Slack alternatives coming up these days. On every post like this there is tons of comment linking to other Slack alternatives, it's not like this is gonna be _the_ Slack-alternative. Here is a non exhaustive list : RocketChat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9624737 Let's Chat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9040841 Friends : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=94…
I recently switched from a company using HipChat to a company using Slack, and the differences seem mostly cosmetic and immaterial.
Are the differences between these various chat programs big enough to affect user experience or productivity?
What distinguishes one from the next?
Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
#115> We’re a YC-backed indie video game company releasing an open source alternative to Slack. Don't want to troll you guys here, but if you're a video game company why are you spending so much time building a Slack clone? I was expecting some short of explanation in your blog post like "we did this because this serves as a core piece of our company for X reason and Slack didn't fit our use case for Y reason".
It may be a perfect match, given that Slack has been created by a game dev team too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_Technologies#Initial_fun...
I'm not sure why that would be all that relevant though.
Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
#116> We’re a YC-backed indie video game company releasing an open source alternative to Slack. Don't want to troll you guys here, but if you're a video game company why are you spending so much time building a Slack clone? I was expecting some short of explanation in your blog post like "we did this because this serves as a core piece of our company for X reason and Slack didn't fit our use case for Y reason".
> Don't want to troll you guys here, but if you're a video game company why are you spending so much time building a Slack clone? I think a better perspective is that this is a tool they needed/wanted and built it - it's really no different than a map editor. Also some companies like Google have a X% time to work on a "personal" project during work hours - and this could be the result of that.
Sounds like a lot of burndown on your non-core competency IMO, but thanks for releasing.
Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
#117I don't really get why there is so many Slack alternatives coming up these days. On every post like this there is tons of comment linking to other Slack alternatives, it's not like this is gonna be _the_ Slack-alternative. Here is a non exhaustive list : RocketChat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9624737 Let's Chat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9040841 Friends : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=94…
It's like back in 2010 when everyone was building free / open source Basecamp clones.
Yeah whatever happened to all of those?
Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
#118I don't really get why there is so many Slack alternatives coming up these days. On every post like this there is tons of comment linking to other Slack alternatives, it's not like this is gonna be _the_ Slack-alternative. Here is a non exhaustive list : RocketChat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9624737 Let's Chat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9040841 Friends : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=94…
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Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That's very problematic from a copyright stance why? they didn't copy slack (i assume) - it just looks similar. Slack doesn't (and shouldn't be allowed) own a look and feel, as long as the implementation of it is cleanroom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_dress#United_States I have no idea if Slack could actually win a case, but in the US (where both companies appear to be headquartered) they do have some rights to look and feel as part of trademark law.
Interesting. There's potential for that as a basis for a civil suit, but i really doubt that the open source alternative could really be argued as trying to misrepresent or cause confusion as to the origin of the product. It'd be a hard case.
Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative
#120I don't really get why there is so many Slack alternatives coming up these days. On every post like this there is tons of comment linking to other Slack alternatives, it's not like this is gonna be _the_ Slack-alternative. Here is a non exhaustive list : RocketChat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9624737 Let's Chat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9040841 Friends : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=94…
Probably the same reason there's a new javascript framework every week. Some people think it's cool and want to build their own.
For better or worse.