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Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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I got malware in the installer for Filezilla on my Mac. They shove malware in all sorts of non-windows stuff these days...

You should start using Cyberduck, it has a Free Client which pops up a window once you installed the free version (but the popup appears only ONCE and does not contain any malware or advertisments), and a paid version without a popup.

+1 for CyberDuck

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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SourceForge was founded 1999. Now, 16 years later they start to abuse their power. GitHub was launched 2008. Does this mean we can expect GitHub to start abusing our data by 2024?

Github has a stable business model which depends on their reputation as a host. As I understand it, that isn't something that could ever be said of SourceForge. I'm not saying github will be around forever, but I highly doubt they'll make the same mistake sourceforge is making now.

> I'm not saying github will be around forever, but I highly doubt they'll make the same mistake sourceforge is making now.

Github could be sold, just like Sourceforge was sold, and the new owners could behave very differently from the current owners.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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I got malware in the installer for Filezilla on my Mac. They shove malware in all sorts of non-windows stuff these days...

I didn't believe you at first, but I just went to install it and...wow... https://imgur.com/a/o6cSW

Yea, there was a whole thread about this a few days ago - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9623142

I actually installed the malware because I'd become so used to not dealing with this sort of stuff on my non-windows machines. The install process hijacks your browser by adding extensions, changing the search engines, blows away your prefs and cookies, installs some crap in the OS, etc. Huge pain in the butt. Totally my fault for just blindly bashing on the next button in the installer. I can assure you, the malware in Filezilla is quite real.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Why? I just subscribed to all messages and use it as any other mailing list – in my email.

google tries very hard to leave the impression that you must have a gmail/google/google+ (not sure, haven't had the misfortune of doing this for some time) account to subscribe.

You can subscribe via email without any google account by sending a message to +subscribe @ googlegroups.com, then it acts just like any other mailing list.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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google tries very hard to leave the impression that you must have a gmail/google/google+ (not sure, haven't had the misfortune of doing this for some time) account to subscribe.

I don't see a problem here, you can just get a gmail account and read mail however you like still, configuring mail client of choice. UPDATE: wow, didn't know you can't even read messages without being google-user. Yeah, that's boorish a bit. UPDATE2: turned out that's not true. You can read google group perfectly fine without signing in: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tmux-users

Assuming there are only 2 threads, Otherwise, that only shows the public threads.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Github has a stable business model which depends on their reputation as a host. As I understand it, that isn't something that could ever be said of SourceForge. I'm not saying github will be around forever, but I highly doubt they'll make the same mistake sourceforge is making now.

SF was highly reputable back in the day - why else do you think so many projects which have roots back in the 90's are hosted there? Never say never. 15 years ago nobody would've dreamt SF would have gone this way.

Agreed. As a high schooler I loved sourceforge. I would talk it up to people and I had a couple of projects that I put up there. I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.

Then I saw that famous talk by Linus on git in 2007 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8). Since I had never managed to get SVN working properly for me git was awesome. No server software to install. By the time I wanted to put up another project on the web Github was a thing and I used that. I never looked back, I loved how it was about the code, not how many installer downloads you had.

That for me was the main problem with sourceforge. In the end it was a game (for the devs) to get the most downloads because that was how your projects were judged and ranked. The Github "game" is slightly better and there are multiple ways to play.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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I thought you were going to show a virus result - the screen you showed is very unambiguously an opt-in screen, it even has the term "Accept" (as opposed to some other word like next or install) making you look at it - if the text said something else you would be very likely to just click it. The button at the left 'skip' is also clear about your other option (if it said 'cancel' it would sound like you're aborting i…

You say it's a great screen, unambiguous, very clear. But you then say: > EDIT: I didn't even notice, there is even grey small text that spells this out in completely unambiguous words! (Thank you for considering this offer from our advertiser...your choice does not affect installation of FileZilla.) Doesn't the fact that you didn't notice it make you at least pause? I am ad tolerant. I do not run an ad blocker. If a…

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Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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> What's your startup? Extremely distasteful.

Their startup or my question, can you explain?

Your question.

When you ask someone about an irrelevant detail related to their status in the community while you are discussing something unrelated, it implies (quite strongly) that you are trying to change the topic from what is at hand to a comparison of credentials, and it also implies that you believe your credentials to be better in some way, somehow giving you an upper hand.

If you are truly independently curious about their startup, ask them separately.

But you were not (you admitted as much). So it's distasteful.

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