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Meteor Raises $20M

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Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by gooseus »

DiNovi wrote: post #106
gooseus wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you're right and everyone else on this comment thread are suffering from some cognitive dissonance? I'd be willing to bet much of those SO questions and replies are a part of keeping up the Meteor hype with most questions being answered by a core group of devs. The PR machine for Meteor is crazy. It's funny because this 20M will go to generating more hype and PR opportunities, while the actual development will…

I was under the impression most of the meteor devs work for meteor?

Well-compensated, talented, and trusted in-house developers committed to making the framework the best it can be for all their client's use cases.

Either that or they're a part of their huge open source community which will still work tirelessly to make the framework better, even if Meteor isn't commercial viable and people move on to the next best thing.

I'm sure the truth is based more on who's in the room at the time than anything else.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by dguaraglia »

auvi wrote: post #6

Can anybody tell me what is the business model of Meteor? If they are getting investments, the investors has some idea of a ROI and what that could be?

I wouldn't be surprised if someone saw Google's acquisition of Firebase as a sign that they can invest in similar technologies and hope that Apple, Facebook or Yahoo will buy them in response.

It's a terrible model, but hey... Clinkle.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by Asparagirl »

gooseus wrote: post #92
rralian wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As mentioned, it's open source and gaining traction. If MDG goes away, I see no reason why meteor could not or would not stand as a viable web framework.

Gaining traction because of the venture capital hype juice I mentioned. There are lots of open-source and "viable" web frameworks out there. People want Meteor because it makes a lot of promises regarding productivity, but (as the presence of this article and multiple comments prove) the real interest is in a framework that has money for continued development. So without the financial backing Meteor is just another o…

But not all of us are using Meteor for work. I just started using Meteor for a fun side project last week (after first banging my head against the still-a-work-in-progress ember-cli and ember-data), and I am having a grand time of it. It's amazingly intuitive, and I'm making great progress, mostly because they already handled so much of the grunt work already.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by untog »

rezistik wrote: post #42
smanuel wrote: post #5

That's cool. Does Meteor actually make, sorry for using such a dirty word, money from something?

Some investments are multipliers not profit centers. If you invest in 9 companies that use Meteor then investing in Meteor means you've invested in those 9 companies. It's an investment in infrastructure.

If you invest in 9 companies that use Meteor then investing in Meteor means you've invested in those 9 companies.

Until they stop using Meteor.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by AlisdairO »

aliakhtar wrote: post #105
AlisdairO wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you use Java/Scala, you have multithreading support and can sync the threads + concurrently verify that an item isn't being purchased more than X times. That does cause you to have a hard limit of one application server for the app, which can be a pretty big deal...

No, you could have multiple servers talking to each other via something like ZooKeeper. But individually, each node/server would use multithreading to keep track of its state.

I guess, but that's some monumental hackery to overcome something that works perfectly fine in an RDBMS :-)

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by ibejoeb »

gooseus wrote: post #94
smaili wrote: post #59

Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I'm just wondering is it really a good thing to put on your homepage that there are nearly 12K questions posted on StackOverflow about Meteor? Seeing a number like that makes me wonder if maybe the documentation and or APIs are not very well done if it's generated that kind of activity on SO.

Maybe you're right and everyone else on this comment thread are suffering from some cognitive dissonance? I'd be willing to bet much of those SO questions and replies are a part of keeping up the Meteor hype with most questions being answered by a core group of devs. The PR machine for Meteor is crazy. It's funny because this 20M will go to generating more hype and PR opportunities, while the actual development will…

I wonder where all of the dislike for Meteor originated. It's a cool product built buy some really smart people. They have the best cli tool I've used in a dev environment, and they're making a ton of progress. They're constantly publishing materials on integrating with third-party components including react, rethinkdb, famo.us.

I hear you about the potential implosion by acquisition. It's definitely a risk. It's not much different than other burgeoning technologies in that regard.

Meteor is advancing a new paradigm of building consumer applications, much like Django and Rails did for REST. It lowers the barrier to entry, and it really has the potential to expose a new generation of programmers to modern techniques.

I also think they've been pretty clear about when Meteor is unsuitable, despite the hype. It's not going to magically scale. It's not a bad place to start, though.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by _random_ »

smanuel wrote: post #5

That's cool. Does Meteor actually make, sorry for using such a dirty word, money from something?

Is that still a requirement for start-ups? Now, if they are not going to spend at least half the money on a new fancy office - that would be a major concern for investors.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by aliakhtar »

AlisdairO wrote: post #115
aliakhtar wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you could have multiple servers talking to each other via something like ZooKeeper. But individually, each node/server would use multithreading to keep track of its state.

I guess, but that's some monumental hackery to overcome something that works perfectly fine in an RDBMS :-)

Until the time comes when you need to scale out your RDBMS and need to shard it. IMO that's a bigger pain ;).

Plus if you have multiple servers, they will most likely need to pass messages for other things too.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by afandian »

DiNovi wrote: post #107
afandian wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an onlooker that's discouraging. Can you give one-line answers to the points above?

Cant tell if this is sarcasm or not :P

No, genuine comment. Those are reasonable questions, and the answer "spend a weekend reading a book" isn't great.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

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Post by [deleted] »

debaserab2 wrote: post #71
sergiotapia wrote: post #31

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What you're saying is only true on a barebones default Meteor app. Please don't comment on a tool if you've never used it for anything other than a hello world, you're doing a very sophisticated tool a huge disservice. You remove the autopublish package and you can no longer query records from the client.

There's no excuse for insecure defaults.

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