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Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by bobajeff »

feross wrote: post #20

Every few months, someone builds a site like this. It lasts for a few days (or weeks) at best before it's shutdown due to legal pressure or sheer cost for the owner. I'm going to ignore the piracy aspect of this site (since I don't support copyright infringement) and just talk about the implementation. This site is connecting to a centralized service to fetch the torrent data. It's not P2P, it's easy to censor, and i…

At least until TCP and UDP Socket API is completed and implemented in browsers. http://www.w3.org/2012/sysapps/tcp-udp-sockets/

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by icebraining »

_lce0 wrote: post #107
dash2 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the price of a movie were composed out of the cost of the materials for the DVD, this argument would be correct. But the price is needed to compensate the people who made the movie. (I don't say that current movie pricing is equitable.) Content creators deserve to be paid for their work. Taking it without payment and without their agreement is stealing.

> Content creators deserve to be paid for their work. Taking it without payment and without their agreement is stealing. I wonder how much Hollywood share its revenue with the content creators, not actors but more like writers, filmmakers, and all those that _create_. are there numbers somewhere? EDIT: s/studios/filmmakers -- thanks icebraining!

How much does Hollywood share with studios? Which Hollywood are you referring to?

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by [deleted] »

feross wrote: post #20

Every few months, someone builds a site like this. It lasts for a few days (or weeks) at best before it's shutdown due to legal pressure or sheer cost for the owner. I'm going to ignore the piracy aspect of this site (since I don't support copyright infringement) and just talk about the implementation. This site is connecting to a centralized service to fetch the torrent data. It's not P2P, it's easy to censor, and i…

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Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by dmarg »

Sir_Substance wrote: post #108
Narkov wrote: post #12

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Everything right? Except of course monitize it. Giving stuff away is pretty easy to do. Making a business out of it is much harder.

You've fallen into the classic trap: No one is obliged to give you money. Finding a business model that works is your problem, not your customers. Forced lock-in is a model, but it's a violent one that makes people want to leave, and it's entirely predicated on there never being an escape hatch for your trapped customers. There is now an escape hatch for content customers. They're no longer beholden to the choice of…

>>No one is obliged to give you money. Finding a business model that works is your problem, not your customers.This struck a chord with me and is exactly the reason why Hollywood and the Music Industry are flailing. They are trying to continue their business model that worked for so long into this new day and age. Adapt or die essentially.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by _lce0 »

verbin217 wrote: post #48
egeozcan wrote: post #6

This reminds me of joker[1], with the benefit of not expecting you to feed it a torrent (or expecting you to know what a torrent is). I genuinely wonder, though, if these services are published just to annoy the copyright owners or for some benefit to the author that I sadly cannot see. edit: They also do not seem to serve ads. Maybe an experiment for a potential legal version? Who knows... [1]: currently out of serv…

Because fuck media conglomerates, that's why. Sorta like Google Chrome: because fuck Microsoft, that's why. When an entity achieves dominance they only innovate in order to keep it. The difference between this situation and the one I compared it to is that there's no way to legitimately compete. Even in the contrasting example it took an entity the size of Google to revive competition. In this one they control the co…

yep, they are called _barrier to entry_[0], and those big conglomerates have huge barriers, being the current legislation the biggest..

the question is if they will be able to handle the economy of scale of the whole world trying to move forward --I hope not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barriers_to_entry

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by jonlucc »

bluedino wrote: post #85
dagw wrote: post #71

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In 2015, a brick and mortar store for renting physical videos still have content which online services do not In 2005 or even 2010 I would absolutely have agreed with you. However in 2015 all those really great independent brick and mortar video rental places I used to go to anywhere near me are long since bankrupt and closed down.

Family Video is growing pretty well. They are the only video store in my area.

I've always suspected that was due to their porn selection. A few years ago, I knew someone who worked in a video rental store in the heart of Kansas City that had an extensive "back room". It always seemed to me that the back room was the only area to get traffic. Somehow, the internet hasn't killed porn disc rentals, and I think it shows for both that small shop in Kansas City (which is still open) and Family Video.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by jonlucc »

JupiterMoon wrote: post #81
eli wrote: post #54

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I disagree. People would still pay more for the one Van Gogh laid his hand upon. After all if you just wanted to look at the painting you can buy a very high quality reproduction today -- you'd need an expert to know it's a fake. Even experts can be fooled by good forgeries.

Just out of interest. With an atom by atom copy how would one work out which is the original?

Just to add on to dash2's comment, the art collection world relies on provenance. Most large art museums (in the US, at least) rarely buy from private collectors for this reason. Items from private collectors are usually donated, and if an item is purchased, it is either through auction (usually the big houses like Sotheby's) or from well-trusted dealers.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by r00fus »

cmiles74 wrote: post #92
VeejayRampay wrote: post #3

Popcorn Time has succeeded in streamlining the delivery of content, providing a smooth and fast experience for sorting through a list of movie and start watching instantly. I really wonder why the movie studios cannot take a cue from this and build something that people actually want to use.

I honestly do not believe that the movie studios are motivated to improve the current system. Perhaps they feel that the current, fractured delivery system serves their interest more than something central and comprehensive. It certainly encourages the customer to subscribe to a service like Netflix, perhaps also to rent a new release on iTunes and eventually possibly buying that same release when its price drops. Th…

Bingo. The goal of the movie industry is simply to make more money, and to prevent any challenge to their stranglehold on content... if that is achieved by balkanized delivery systems, that's what they will push for.
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