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Re: Ask HN: Should I testify?

#112
I would say if you apply for big companies, it probably doesn't matter. The people who hire you are also employee. But startup may hold that against you, if they aren't very good companies. Also what you can do is to write an article about why you choose to testify, to huffpost blog or similar blogs (it is actually quite easy to write a blog there, especially with your story), then when people search, they hear the real story about you, not just a media coverage of the case.

Re: Ask HN: Should I testify?

#113
post #87
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when is having a moral compass a platitude?

It's like the generic advise that everyone already knows. "be yourself!" isn't super helpful when he/she is asking specifically about career impact.

Know who you are then you'll know what to do. The question isn't about career impact. That's just like when someone's words are different to their body language. The question is different to the words in it.

Re: Ask HN: Should I testify?

#114

Tell them to subpoena you - then the choice to testify is not yours any more. You'll have to. But you can tell future employers that you were forced, if you'd like to.

I agree with this approach.

If you do decide to testify, I would strongly recommend finding someone completely unrelated to the case who can coach you on how to be a witness. Not what to say, but how to say it. My only experience testifying was in a small criminal trial, but the advice I was given was to keep my answers short, factual and free of emotion.

Some companies will immediately discount you if you testify against a former employer. For those that look closely at the case, though, you do not want to come across as someone testifying because they bear a grudge. A calm, passive, "just the facts" attitude will be the best for your career.

Re: Ask HN: Should I testify?

#115
Your question is a lot trickier than you might think at first. A lot of comments seem to imply that any potential employer that opts to pass on your resume based on you testifying is a company that you wouldn't want to work for. Maybe, but I don't think that's how most HR departments would be considering it.

Their goal is to add value to the company with each hire. They could agree with your ethics and even applaud your speaking out, but still pass on you because your past history as a whistleblower (or at least close enough to one for the term to broadly fit) makes them nervous about what you might do over a difference of opinion even if they believe their company to be ethical and law-abiding. Unless you happen to be a major witness in the case and the defense manages to drag you thoroughly through the mud, it's unlikely that your CV will be tarnished enough for it to be automatically rejected as though you marked down a felony conviction on the application.

It's not completely analogous, but imagine a hypothetical case where Edward Snowden is applying for a position at Google. Were you to poll Google employees, I'd expect strong support for his actions. Hell, his leaks clearly benefited Google by informing them what the NSA was up to and how they were tapping into their internal traffic. But would that support prevent them from worrying about what might happen if he disagreed about certain activities at Google? Snowden already demonstrated a strength of character strong enough to go against the massed might of the United States government of all entities, and for all of their marketshare, Google's own reach pales in comparison. I don't think it'd automatically disqualify Snowden, but it's something that would probably be considered at least in part.

For an employer, it boils down to a simple risk analysis. What's the likelihood that the applicant will find themselves in a similar situation again, and how does that weigh against the value that their work would add to the company? There's really no simple answer here, let alone a guaranteed one. If you're a strong candidate that they'd otherwise want, it'll matter less would be the case if you had little to offer them compared to other candidates.

Re: Ask HN: Should I testify?

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also thought so, and then I heard the real question

I agree with the sentiment but the issue I take with the original answer is that it is that it's completely unactionable. There's no litmus test defined for what "authenticity" to oneself is or how to achieve it, so there's no way for the OP to really take this information and tangibly apply it to their situation. In my personal opinion suggestion without actionability is not particularly useful and only convolutes t…

Of course it's actionable. Just because an algorithm can't do a cost/benefit analysis and come up with a deterministic solution absolving OP of all responsibility doesn't mean it's not actionable. The solution does however dodge the question as stated. OP asked what the consequences are of testifying, so he can decide whether doing the right thing is worth the risk/consequences. The solution suggested is telling him to say damn the consequences, do what you know is right, whatever that may be. It's life advice, not factual information. It doesn't answer the question he was asking explicitly, it answers the implicit follow up question; once I know the consequences, what do I do?

Re: Ask HN: Should I testify?

#118
As someone who blogs about interviews and legal issues, I am very paranoid about my online footprint. I have talked to many of my friends who are recruiters at tech companies. The recruiters don't dig that deep and the interviewers are discouraged from looking at more than the candidate's LinkedIn profile.

I am still inundated with invitations to interview.

I think you will be fine too.

Edit: Look up the names of people who have sued their employers. http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/ Try googling their names and see if you can link them to the cases. I bet the connections are hard to make.

Re: Ask HN: Should I testify?

#119

Tell them to subpoena you - then the choice to testify is not yours any more. You'll have to. But you can tell future employers that you were forced, if you'd like to.

Excellent advice. Also ask if they can subpoena you and depose you rather than have you testify in court.

Re: Ask HN: Should I testify?

#120
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's got to be lots of companies that, as a policy, don't do illegal things. Especially smaller businesses that can't afford to break the law. But larger ones too. Presumably, those kinds of places just wouldn't care if you testified against a former employer who broke the law. Because it just wouldn't matter.

In corporate America, companies do not do illegal things, illegal things do companies.

I laughed, though it doesn't quite work, and I don't quite know how to fix it.

In America, companies break the law. In Soviet Russia, the law breaks companies. Or something

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