Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Google Contributor

google.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

111–120 of 201 posts

Re: Google Contributor

#111

Post by sidcool »

gcb0 wrote: post #97
TillE wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patreon really has been fantastic for individuals and small groups whom people actively want to support. From tons of small creators paying their rent to the bigger successes like Jim Sterling and RedLetterMedia. This seems targeted at larger, semi-faceless websites which may only be able to survive with tiny contributions from a mass audience. Imgur is probably the best example of that; it's infrastructure that peop…

imgur is backed by its parent company which also own reddit. they are doing fine as reddit simply does not exist without it

That is not true, sir.

Re: Google Contributor

#112

Post by Gustomaximus »

csense wrote: post #73
IgorPartola wrote: post #70

This severely breaks down when you find a site you disagree with. Say you go on some anti-vaccines blog just to find after reading through a bunch of articles that they are a part of this program. Can you take your money back? Or what about a political campaign site for your rival? Or the Westboro Baptist clan?

The same problem exists with ads, though. By browsing a site with ads, you're supporting them.

Not for the majority (by number) of websites as you can not click on the ads. Websites tend to be a CPC model for all but the larger websites. Larger websites tend to mix CPM pricing with sponsorship & affiliate deals.

Re: Google Contributor

#114

Post by greedoshotlast »

fairblocker wrote: post #103
taurath wrote: post #51

Its really important to be talking about this - the fact that current revenue streams are almost all based around advertising in media creates a bit of a race to the bottom - the more clicks you get the more money you make, so the only intrinsic motivation is to get more clicks (especially if you're a public company). Everything else is secondary even if its not marketed as such. If the primary goal of a site or proj…

I just launched a similar concept to bundled microsubscriptions, which I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, called FairBlocker. Its an ad blocker with a monthly subscription that we split up among sites and pay out to the publisher (aggregating microsubscriptions from all our users). Another way to go after a similar goal.

Keep up the good work, FairBlocker is giving content creators a fair cut and users everywhere an ad-free experience.

Re: Google Contributor

#115

Post by aorloff »

lifeformed wrote: post #106
dpweb wrote: post #36

At the risk of being an unpopular opinion, advertising has been a huge boon in the growth of the Internet. I dislike the ad crazy "news" sites that bombard you and destroy the entire user-experience, but I would equate a not-too-intrusive advertisement as being not an obnoxious thing, and something that allows you to get something, not totally for free, but at the cost of a second of your attention. I'm sure popular…

> At the risk of being an unpopular opinion, advertising has been a huge boon in the growth of the Internet. I look at that more of a necessary evil, kind of like the pollution from the industrial revolution. It got us this far, but now it's time to look for sustainable ways to make use of this growth.

On the contrary. Regardless of what people SAY they want when discussing ads on forums, when faced with the choice of getting content for free with ads, or paying and not seeing ads, people vote with their mouse and choose free with ads.

One might say that advertising has been a hugely POPULAR way to get awesome free services on the internet.

Re: Google Contributor

#116

Post by ekianjo »

> Support the people who make the web.

Oh, you mean the ones who are already big enough to generate large amounts of revenues (based on their advertized partners) ? My first thought was that this would be a good way to support smaller websites instead.

Re: Google Contributor

#117

Post by neurotech1 »

egypturnash wrote: post #60

A fraction of $3/mo? From a company that abandons projects left and right? I'll stick to Patreon, thanks. I'm making about $800 on a productive month now despite there being a pretty small audience for comics about a lesbian robot with PKD problems. I set "no ads for anyone" as my goal for like $50/p, which was still making far more than I ever did from ad impressions. Most people only contribute a buck or so a page…

One of my favorite space news webcasts, TMRO, uses Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tmro

They are making $952 per episode, which is more than what annoying ads would pay.

Re: Google Contributor

#119

Post by adventured »

foxylad wrote: post #100
egypturnash wrote: post #60

A fraction of $3/mo? From a company that abandons projects left and right? I'll stick to Patreon, thanks. I'm making about $800 on a productive month now despite there being a pretty small audience for comics about a lesbian robot with PKD problems. I set "no ads for anyone" as my goal for like $50/p, which was still making far more than I ever did from ad impressions. Most people only contribute a buck or so a page…

Horses for courses - for high volume sites this would be awesome. My immediate thought was "Great - at last Wikipedia can get rid of the annual begging bowl". It could also be a great solution to the news site paywall debate. I'd love to seamlessly reward the sites I visit often, and if Google can automate this, more power to their elbow. Also, interesting that it is Google is doing this. It risks reducing their adve…

With AdSense publishers keep 68% of the content ads. I have always assumed very large sites are able to negotiate a slightly better deal.

I can't locate any information on what cut they're taking from the Contributor product though.

Re: Google Contributor

#120

Post by adventured »

gcb0 wrote: post #97
TillE wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patreon really has been fantastic for individuals and small groups whom people actively want to support. From tons of small creators paying their rent to the bigger successes like Jim Sterling and RedLetterMedia. This seems targeted at larger, semi-faceless websites which may only be able to survive with tiny contributions from a mass audience. Imgur is probably the best example of that; it's infrastructure that peop…

imgur is backed by its parent company which also own reddit. they are doing fine as reddit simply does not exist without it

Imgur is a stand-alone corporation, and is not owned by the same company that has a majority stake in Reddit.

Imgur has taken one round of VC, for $40 million, and most of that was made up of Andreessen Horowitz. Reddit did participate in that round, but they were a small minority share of it.

Post reply on HN