Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In BSD and similar you easily can. Nope. My taking BSD code and producing a proprietary, closed source product it in no way impacts someone else's freedom to do the same, nor does it remove some freedom they previously had.
The freedoms on the original are indeed unchanged in both cases. The freedom on the derived work is what can be taken away with non-GPL.
The GPL nerd imagination in play here is as the ridiculous as the imagination of crypto nerds[1].
[1]: http://xkcd.com/538/