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Re: Google broke telephony for many Nexus users

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I used to work at Google in support. You were not talking to a random engineer - the support people are all dedicated support contractors. Most of the teams are all non-technical and the only thing they know about how the product works is from a two week training where most of the time is spent on learning how to avoid lawsuits.

How do people think google puts software engineers on the phone randomly? That's just an insane idea. I mean, these guys all make what 150k starting with 250k+ salaries not unheard of and you really expect their managers to go, "Oh btw, you're on helpdesk this week. Put on your headset and talk to clueless people for 8 hours today."

I once worked at a startup-bought-by-bigco that did almost exactly this. Granted it was level 4, not level 1 support; and it was on a quarterly, not weekly, basis.

Re: Google broke telephony for many Nexus users

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"Hi, I don't think anyone from google is even looking at this since we have no resolution" What's up with this Google?

Maybe they're on holiday? Is that not possible?

Since 12/18/2014? Not a single person to ack the issue? That seems odd.

Re: Google broke telephony for many Nexus users

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I'm not sure why you assume a switch to VoIP will help in that regard - in practical terms that means the SIP protocol for the voice (and SMS) signalling. While SIP is going to be the way forward, the specs are really full of ambiguity and not that well though out features. Most commercial vendors of SIP servers include full scripting languages in order for the admins to "normalize" the protocol in order to try to sm…

SIP is software. What runs on my cellular modem and its stack is firmware written by yet another party. If SIP app #474 is screwing up, I switch to SIP app #475. This all can be done in userland as an application. Changing out my GSM stack? Yeah, I can't do that.

Well, with VoLTE currently being implemented in networks and phones, that SIP stack used to realize VoLTE on the phone can pretty much be considered firmware too.

However, you might fiddle around with various other SIP clients and find one that works for you. The other hundreds of millions of mobile phone users are not going to do that - so the problem will persist.

Re: Google broke telephony for many Nexus users

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I've seen this issue too on my Nexus 4. Rebooting fixes the problem, at least temporarily. Since I had just used the OTA updates for stock 5.0 and 5.0.1, another redditor suggested that I do a factory wipe. I haven't seen the problem recur yet, but it has only been a couple days. Because of this and other problems (random crashes), if I see any issue again, then I'll downgrade to 4.4.4. My typical uptime for that rel…

It may be a bad generalization since I imagine Google teams for different products don't have that much in common, but it seems to me that since some time Google is pushing more forward and caring less about apps being reliable and bug-free. I've seen errors in inbox, in google music, and most annoying in google photos where I'm unable to access some of my albums (created stories were unavailable for me for about 2 w…

And their new products are even far worse than advertised, for no real reason.

for example compare http://i.imgur.com/IxwQwqk.png with http://i.imgur.com/DrzdQKJ.png, it’s not like it would have been much work to implement this design, and it would have made it far nicer, but they didn’t do it.

It seems like Google is trying to save on every end and while trying to not spend a single unnecessary penny, they butcher their services.

Re: Google broke telephony for many Nexus users

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I've seen this issue too on my Nexus 4. Rebooting fixes the problem, at least temporarily. Since I had just used the OTA updates for stock 5.0 and 5.0.1, another redditor suggested that I do a factory wipe. I haven't seen the problem recur yet, but it has only been a couple days. Because of this and other problems (random crashes), if I see any issue again, then I'll downgrade to 4.4.4. My typical uptime for that rel…

but, but... material design

material design would have been nice, if Google would have actually implemented it: http://imgur.com/a/Xtey7
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