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Slightly OT, but I'm going to travel through China in a couple days and before reading this thread I thought I could get away with my VPN (hosted on my Digital Ocean VPS) plus eventually Tor, but now I'm not quite sure anymore. Could anybody shed light on this?
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"The people have chosen an autocratic government" - saying so is so unfair to us. Maybe people like me who desire for an unblocked Internet is a minority (when compared to the population in this country), but people who desire for safe milk and food, clean water and fresh air for their babies are not! But on the other hand, I must say that your observations described in your first paragraph are correct. Take the rece…
We in the US complain about our lack of choice in the political system. We have two parties, making our choices rather limited in elections. However, China has a one party system. There is no counter to the Communist Party.
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We in the US complain about our lack of choice in the political system. We have two parties, making our choices rather limited in elections. However, China has a one party system. There is no counter to the Communist Party.
I think it's only a portion of the issue - another difference is that the US has a true constitution-based legal system.
The "Great Firewall" in China has over 600 million active Internet users. That's double the population of the United States. Baidu is the dominating search engine, there are replacement services for Twitter, Facebook, and others. Their IM "Wechat" has over 300 million active users alone. In all reality, Google, Facebook, and others would _love_ to have even the smallest presence in China to get access to that user ba…
If you guys are having a difficulty understanding what is 50 cent party ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party ), or its derivation, Ziganwu ( http://www.china.org.cn/china/2013-12/27/content_31021911.ht... ), I guess atoponce can be an example.
Sure, there are social and political issues, but most Chinese Internet users are very happy with what's available to them. The reality is, there are two "Internets", and China's Internet is a very large one.
I'm fairly sure this has been the case for a few months, this site is very useful: http://www.blockedinchina.net/ .
That web site tests HTTP. The article specifically mentions IMAP and SMTP.
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> I don't think China will be able to compete internationally in the software industry. That is a very self-centered point of view, in recent european TED talks there were speakers like Mikko Hypponen from F-Secure, that there should be "european" versions of Google, Facebook, so we can avoid all the dragnet datamining etc. unethical web development solutions and NSA spying that somehow pass in the US.
If such products are created and succeed, it will be because they competed well with their American counterparts. The equivalent Chinese products don't face any competition at all.
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VPN is roughly ok as long as your IP address is not in the blacklist. But it could be unstable. The GFW may drop your connections from time to time. I am not sure about Tor but I believe it probably doesn't work any more. Private VPN/shadowsocks is now the majority I think.
Out of curiosity: what does shadowsocks do that regular SSH tunneling doesn't do? Why is an entire program needed just to run a simple ssh command? I couldn't find any info on the matter.
The "Great Firewall" in China has over 600 million active Internet users. That's double the population of the United States. Baidu is the dominating search engine, there are replacement services for Twitter, Facebook, and others. Their IM "Wechat" has over 300 million active users alone. In all reality, Google, Facebook, and others would _love_ to have even the smallest presence in China to get access to that user ba…
If you guys are having a difficulty understanding what is 50 cent party ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party ), or its derivation, Ziganwu ( http://www.china.org.cn/china/2013-12/27/content_31021911.ht... ), I guess atoponce can be an example.
While in China media, you cannot see anything about "50 cent party" except from people belonging to "US cent party" LoL...
Not surprising considering the tricks they've been pulling of late. What can be said here? The people have chosen an autocratic government and often, without me even provoking them, will tell me how superior is is to western values, the same way Russians will also do. As an international traveler and sometimes international worker, this is fairly typical stuff. I see this kind of thing on VK and Facebook all the time…
I am not sure how blocking gmail has anything to do with democracy and "western values". OTOH the "western values" on the Internet as we've recently observed include total worldwide surveillance, hacking everything at will, manipulation of social networks and so on, so maybe your "democratic" high horse is not so high after all.