If it's not free, I hope everyone buys it instead of waiting for a torrent. We should support online releases.
I'm not in the US, will torrent for sure just to make a statement. I support online releases but this is not an online release, there are no borders on the internet.
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> "For the ones who don't have it available in their country (like me) are left with no other option :(" Come on. Your option is to wait. From the site: "we do hope to see the release of The Interview across the globe"
Eh. It takes more effort to regionally lock something on the Internet than not. Sony makes this sound like they'll go to every effort eventually to release this movie across the globe - doing that would require so much less effort than they're currently expending. When you say "wait" you're asking people to assume Sony will get around to considering them equal members of the Internet society. Or they can just assert…
Not necessarily.
To properly allow your product to be sold in multiple international markets, you need to have customer support in the local languages. You need to support the popular local payment systems. You need localized fraud detection (risks differ by area). You also need to comply with local laws (copyright law differs by country, and rights to show movies may need to be negotiated separately).
It's true that you can just put something on YouTube for free and forget about it, and in that case, locking it to one region is just being mean. But when launching a paid and supported product, it's just not that easy.
edit: you also need subtitles or dubbing in some areas
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#113They want a credit card, they want a CVC for a $6 purchase, and they only have a domain-only SSL cert. Sloppy security, people.
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#114Why does https://www.seetheinterview.com keep redirecting to https://www.kernel.com which doesn't even contain The Interview film?
(I work at Stripe.) Kernel is one of the companies putting this release together. They put up the redirect temporarily; about to put a more informative placeholder until the 10a PT launch.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh. It takes more effort to regionally lock something on the Internet than not. Sony makes this sound like they'll go to every effort eventually to release this movie across the globe - doing that would require so much less effort than they're currently expending. When you say "wait" you're asking people to assume Sony will get around to considering them equal members of the Internet society. Or they can just assert…
I agree with everything you say - but it takes nothing away from my original point. The OP stated that he had 'no choice' but to pirate the movie. He does have a choice. He can wait for them to make it available to him - the cinema release was originally US only anyway. Or his other option is just to not watch it. I'm personally tired of the argument 'I had no option to pirate it'. It's rubbish. It's simply somebody'…
That said, I see pirating in this context as civil disobedience. It's not a new concept, and is used all the time to convey that the status quo is unacceptable to society at large.
There is the "choice" to accept things as they are, whether or not you believe them to be good and proper. Or you can break the law on purpose, with purpose, with intent to disobey laws and rules that you see as counter to the greater good.
Remember, this is copyright law we're talking about. Pirating is not thievery, and I personally see pirating in places where content is unavailable to be in the same wheel house as pirating as a voice against the absurdity of insanely extended copyright laws.
For instance, see The Grey Album.
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#116You can download this as a DRM-free file with a simple curl command. Most people probably wouldn't bother, however, because Stripe makes it so easy to just watch directly your browser, no need to go through the hassle of downloading anything or needing the hard drive space. This is a great example of content providers finally beating piracy by providing a simpler method of content distribution. I hope more movies com…
I'd like to agree with you, but the easier than pirating part of your comment only seems to apply if you're from the US (correct me, if it's available in other countries). I'd really like to pay, but it seems I have to resort to other sources. Besides other, admittedly far from mainstream movies did this a lot better - "Sleepwalk with me" or last years highly praised "Computer Chess" offered a DRM-free, 1080p downloa…
I suspect they really wanted as much of a launch as possible by Christmas, for symbolic reasons. (I think that was the original intended release date?). Kudos to them for managing to achieve a fairly significant launch.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh. It takes more effort to regionally lock something on the Internet than not. Sony makes this sound like they'll go to every effort eventually to release this movie across the globe - doing that would require so much less effort than they're currently expending. When you say "wait" you're asking people to assume Sony will get around to considering them equal members of the Internet society. Or they can just assert…
> Eh. It takes more effort to regionally lock something on the Internet than not. Not necessarily. To properly allow your product to be sold in multiple international markets, you need to have customer support in the local languages. You need to support the popular local payment systems. You need localized fraud detection (risks differ by area). You also need to comply with local laws (copyright law differs by countr…
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#118Flagged. And in the comments here: "By jove, go out and buy it!" "Jolly good, and what might that cost?" "The low price of 5.99 pounds, my good man!" "Huzzah!" I'm not going to say that this is all astroturfing and "organic sales hacking", but sometimes, it looks like a pretty big fucking shill.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Eh. It takes more effort to regionally lock something on the Internet than not. Not necessarily. To properly allow your product to be sold in multiple international markets, you need to have customer support in the local languages. You need to support the popular local payment systems. You need localized fraud detection (risks differ by area). You also need to comply with local laws (copyright law differs by countr…
Except that it is on YouTube.
edit: but I realize you do make a fair point, just being on YouTube means that it removes some of the technical difficulties in launching in multiple countries. It still leaves a lot of others, though.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with everything you say - but it takes nothing away from my original point. The OP stated that he had 'no choice' but to pirate the movie. He does have a choice. He can wait for them to make it available to him - the cinema release was originally US only anyway. Or his other option is just to not watch it. I'm personally tired of the argument 'I had no option to pirate it'. It's rubbish. It's simply somebody'…
It's true, he has a choice. That said, I see pirating in this context as civil disobedience. It's not a new concept, and is used all the time to convey that the status quo is unacceptable to society at large. There is the "choice" to accept things as they are, whether or not you believe them to be good and proper. Or you can break the law on purpose, with purpose, with intent to disobey laws and rules that you see as…
As for copyright in general - extended copyright laws are nuts. I personally think it's fair for someone to have copyright until they die (no passing it on to relatives etc.). Also, it's a unpopular opinion here, but I consider piracy theft. And I'm not saying that to be morally superior - I've pirated lots of stuff but I consider it theft and wrong.