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Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by ibrahima »

serf wrote: post #99
ams6110 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, I much prefer this style of pointer to a trackpad because I don't need to move my hands.

I love it, too. I hate that Lenovo no longer makes a ThinkPad with only that style pointer any longer. I always felt the trackpad was a big waste of space since I never use them.

Eh, as a T440s owner (granted, my first Thinkpad) I was a bit apprehensive about the lack of buttons but I actually exclusively use the Trackpoint now. The clickpad does click down like a button which is a little weird at first but you quickly get used to where the "buttons" are and then it just feels like normal. I use the middle click scroll a lot too. At least in Linux you can adjust the precise locations of the buttons yourself, I think in Windows you also get some options for configuring the button locations if the defaults don't feel right. Right now I feel like this is the best input system I've had on a laptop.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by archagon »

overgard wrote: post #68
quinndupont wrote: post #52

In no way am I trying to incite Mac vs. PC, but after years of Apple laptops I grew bored with their aluminum fascism and decided (last year) to buy a top-of-the-line Thinkpad. A couple of months later, taking a huge economic hit, I sold the Thinkpad and returned to Apple. I simply could not handle the trackpad (and I gave up on the weird Thinkpad nubbin back in the early 2000s). I quite literally felt like I had a d…

I don't know that apple gets this right either. (I have a macbook). The actual tracking feels fantastic and precise, and it has a nice texture, but I /hate/ how they refuse to put real buttons below it. Things like "right mouse drag" which I use all the time become a nightmare, and the whole "no buttons" thing just seems like it's putting aesthetics over functionality.

Are you talking about Windows? Because I'm pretty sure OSX doesn't have any right mouse drag controls.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by STRML »

jbkkd wrote: post #102
JelteF wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

System76 always looks quite good, especially if you don't need windows. https://system76.com/laptops/model/galu1

Has anyone owned one of these and can share their experience?

I've actually heard very bad things. They are a reseller and don't seem to stand behind their products. Here is one example: http://yashchandra.com/2014/05/06/do-not-buy-system76-develo...

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by archagon »

Havoc wrote: post #11

Ignoring the trackpad angle...the idea of ramping up the CPU on scroll does make some sense. If you think about smartphones...the first place people bitch about lag is scrolling. Thats likely what the engineer was thinking about when they linked trackpad to CPU like that.

OSX ramps up the CPU during scrolling, but never enough to turbo the fans. And if the scroll view is GPU accelerated (now nearly all of them), it only climbs to 10% instead of 50%.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by buro9 »

_sigma wrote: post #93
buro9 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a Linux user for as long as I remember, and most of that has been on a Thinkpad. However I've just joined CloudFlare and they asked the simple question of whether I wanted a Lenovo or something Apple. Having looked, I cannot think of a reason I should carry on with Thinkpads. They're just not what they used to be with trackpads which are unsatisfying, battery life that isn't as long as the Apples, non-Retin…

I use Karabiner [1] to make my constant jump between OSX/nix/Windows more easy by remaping ^C/^V (amongst others) without having to actually swap control and command keys via OSX's utility. [1] https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/

Thanks, that looks perfect. I'll persist with the Apple shortcuts for a while, but am happy that there's a nice way to make the worlds feel similar if it proves too distracting.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by zo1 »

buro9 wrote: post #80
krick wrote: post #50

So, really, is there anything left to buy except MacBooks anymore? I'm not a big fan of Apple, and would have to go through all sorts of nuisances to install Linux on it anyway, but the longer I search for solid 13" laptop, the more horrified I become. It cannot be that nobody makes nice laptops, can it?

I've been a Linux user for as long as I remember, and most of that has been on a Thinkpad. However I've just joined CloudFlare and they asked the simple question of whether I wanted a Lenovo or something Apple. Having looked, I cannot think of a reason I should carry on with Thinkpads. They're just not what they used to be with trackpads which are unsatisfying, battery life that isn't as long as the Apples, non-Retin…

I'm curious... Why mention "CloudFlare" at all? Why not, "joined a new company" ? Unless the point was specifically to let all of us know that you now work for CloudFlare?

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by krick »

buster wrote: post #101
krick wrote: post #50

So, really, is there anything left to buy except MacBooks anymore? I'm not a big fan of Apple, and would have to go through all sorts of nuisances to install Linux on it anyway, but the longer I search for solid 13" laptop, the more horrified I become. It cannot be that nobody makes nice laptops, can it?

I got a solid Dell, full aluminium, 16GB memory, 1TB SSD, FullHD laptop and all is fine. I never liked Dell laptop because i had some unpleasant experiences years ago with a cheaper model but this one feels great. I used to buy Sony but over they years their quality went down very much (as well as Lenovos/IBM).

What about heating/noise? I heard Dell has problems with that quite constantly. BTW, what's model of your device?

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by listic »

serf wrote: post #99
ams6110 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, I much prefer this style of pointer to a trackpad because I don't need to move my hands.

I love it, too. I hate that Lenovo no longer makes a ThinkPad with only that style pointer any longer. I always felt the trackpad was a big waste of space since I never use them.

I like the following logic: you could always disable it, and only switch on for the time someone else is using your laptop, so win-win.

But getting rid of 7-row keyboard and clicky mouse buttons, so that a huge trackpad would fit? Not worth it.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by pmontra »

krick wrote: post #50

So, really, is there anything left to buy except MacBooks anymore? I'm not a big fan of Apple, and would have to go through all sorts of nuisances to install Linux on it anyway, but the longer I search for solid 13" laptop, the more horrified I become. It cannot be that nobody makes nice laptops, can it?

I have a HP Zbook 15 and I'm happy with it. One of the reasons is the trackpad with physical buttons. The keyboard is good too. Unfortunately it has a number pad, completely useless. I rather have a keyboard centered with the screen instead. Apple got that right. Most PC manufacturers don't.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by devicenull »

cturner wrote: post #74
krick wrote: post #50

So, really, is there anything left to buy except MacBooks anymore? I'm not a big fan of Apple, and would have to go through all sorts of nuisances to install Linux on it anyway, but the longer I search for solid 13" laptop, the more horrified I become. It cannot be that nobody makes nice laptops, can it?

New thinkpads from the older lines are good. The original x1 carbon is glorious if you can find them still. But all the latest thinkpad models are junk - awful trackpad, bizarre keyboard design decisions. Yeah macs don't work too well for me either. I will try to ride my x1 forward and hopefully in a couple of years the google Chromebooks will be strong Linux options.

I have the new X1, and I find myself continuously hitting the function keys, because they're on some kind of touch screen... it's probably the only complaint I have with the laptop.
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