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Re: Dear Instagram

#111

The #1 way to spot a mushy web3.0 social startup is to see if they named their product a generic, overloaded dictionary word. This is a really irritating recent trend. Every time I see one of these I can almost hear the 'profile picture in a circle' of the CEO pitching the name to me: 'its a really utilitarian, no-nonsense product for People Who Just Get It Done, like me & my team, so naming it out of the common Engl…

Not as extreme a case, but does anyone remember HealthKit?

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post #76
post #54

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> The strange-made-up-word naming trend is annoying Why? Is it really a “trend”? Chevrolet, Toyota, Lexus, Microsoft, Kodak, Leica, Nikon, Canon, Nokia, Rolex. Some of these are not entirely made up, but they sound like it if you are not familiar with small Japanese towns.

Toyota is the name of the founder, though the transliteration is archaic. We'd spell it "Toyoda" today.

Wikipedia says the difference between the spelling in Toyoda's name and Toyota is deliberate - that there were aesthetic and connotative reasons for spelling the company different from the family name. Although obviously, I'm not sure how the exact Japanese writing would work for that.

> But Risaburō Toyoda, who had married into the family and was not born with that name, preferred "Toyota" (トヨタ) because it took eight brush strokes (a lucky number) to write in Japanese, was visually simpler (leaving off the diacritic at the end) and with a voiceless consonant instead of a voiced one (voiced consonants are considered to have a "murky" or "muddy" sound compared to voiceless consonants, which are "clear").

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota

Obviously, though, I don't speak Japanese. Would both the family name and the company name be Latinized as Toyoda?

Re: Dear Instagram

#113
post #30

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Or possibly, as is actually mentioned in the article under discussion, to lay groundwork for a later legal defense of their mark.

I don't buy that this three-guy operation has the means for such litigation and this post gives no indication they've had any consultation with a relevant legal professional thus far.

Well, what of it? They're worried Instagram is going to eat their mark bones and all; whether they're planning to litigate or otherwise, their best defense is to make as much noise about it as they can.

Re: Dear Instagram

#114
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> If I was Instagram I would probably offer a small sum to Bolt.co to change their name on the basis that I could offer a sum now or know I could have a deep reserve of budget for legal fees to argue that Bolt.co has not developed sufficient goodwill/reputation to be entitled to prevent Instagram's usage of 'Bolt' . What? That is not at all how trademark works. If Instagram wanted, it might have a shot at a protracte…

My example is how it would work in the absence of any trade mark registrations. I incorrectly assumed there were no registrations in place here. Having checked, yes, the presence of a registration would greatly improve Bolt's leverage in the manner you describe.

Registering a mark with the USPTO is _absolutely not required_ to have standing for an ownership claim, even if another party goes to USPTO and registers your mark or a similar one.

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#115

Dear Bolt.co, I truly wish you luck in your fight against Instagram. Name stealing is a rough game. I know because I have been traveling on Bolt buses for 8 years now ( http://www.boltbus.com/ ). I know there is some confusion because you have basically the same symbol. Maybe there aren't too many ways to vary a lightning bolt shooting through an "O" in the word "Bolt" but I welcome you (and Instagram to try). Sincer…

Instagram/Facebook is NOT going to do anything about the name. Just look at the history. Facebook launched an iOS app and called it "Paper." And guess what? There was a very popular app, which was called "Paper" too. From recent cases I only remember Microsoft to change their mind in regards to their "Metro" OS. However, even in that case Microsoft decided to back off because "Metro" was a big retailer that sold Micr…

They also were forced to rename Skydrive to Onedrive due to a lawsuit by the British broadcaster Sky.

Re: Dear Instagram

#116

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and here's the cms called http://bolt.cm I'm curious who got this name earlier.

How many people remember bo.lt from 2011 ? https://www.facebook.com/getbolt

And how many remember bolt.com from the dotcom bubble? https://web.archive.org/web/19981207004638/http://www.bolt.c...

Re: Dear Instagram

#117

Dear Bolt.co, I truly wish you luck in your fight against Instagram. Name stealing is a rough game. I know because I have been traveling on Bolt buses for 8 years now ( http://www.boltbus.com/ ). I know there is some confusion because you have basically the same symbol. Maybe there aren't too many ways to vary a lightning bolt shooting through an "O" in the word "Bolt" but I welcome you (and Instagram to try). Sincer…

The word Bolt always has to have the lighting bolt in the "O".

Bolt (the Disney movie): http://cdnvideo.dolimg.com/cdn_assets/abd7aa3a4851f515796d9d...

Bolt Browser: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolt_(web_browser)

Re: Dear Instagram

#118
post #89

Reminds me of when Facebook did this with Papers[1] too. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7171724

Off topic, but I'm curious, how do you dig in and find old HN postings? I see a lot of people doing it.

I read the article when it came out - remembered it, and then searched for it using the bottom search bar. Took a few different search terms to find the article - but it came up relatively quickly. Not too complicated - but does require me to have read the article a while ago.

Re: Dear Instagram

#119

The #1 way to spot a mushy web3.0 social startup is to see if they named their product a generic, overloaded dictionary word. This is a really irritating recent trend. Every time I see one of these I can almost hear the 'profile picture in a circle' of the CEO pitching the name to me: 'its a really utilitarian, no-nonsense product for People Who Just Get It Done, like me & my team, so naming it out of the common Engl…

Not as extreme a case, but does anyone remember HealthKit?

I'd say that the munging of the two words together actually makes that relatively distinctive, and in line with Apple's "BlahKit" naming convention for their API sets.

Now Pages and Numbers, on the other hand...

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