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Re: Firefox 31.0

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Post by Pacabel »

Cowicide wrote: post #108
angersock wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, really--Mozilla what are you doing? I thought you cared about privacy. :(

This really irks me, where's the best place for us to complain to Mozilla about this?

I don't think that there is a good place to do that, unfortunately.

You could file a bug, but it'll be pretty much lost among the thousands upon thousands of other ones that already exist and haven't been dealt with.

You could comment here or in some other discussion forum, but those in the Firefox community will probably just vote you down, and continue to pretend that there isn't a problem.

You could write an article, but again, that probably won't help much, unfortunately.

The best thing to do may be to find an alternative browser, or use older browsers that aren't broken in this manner.

I just don't think that those working on Firefox these days truly care to listen to what the remaining Firefox users have to say. Time and time again lots of users have loudly expressed extreme displeasure with monumental mistakes like Australis and the removal of useful functionality, only to be totally ignored by the Firefox developers. I don't see why this situation should be any different.

Re: Firefox 31.0

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Post by gcb0 »

...and FF finally caught up with IE and Chrome habit of reporting every single URL you visit/download to check for malware.

Since there is no free-lunch, i'm pretty sure the people running those services are mining that data for advertising or something. I know google is with chrome. Malware protection and translator services phoning home on every page, and pre-fetch adding the links you haven't clicked yet to that list...

Re: Firefox 31.0

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Post by gcb0 »

huhtenberg wrote: post #12

> Block malware from downloaded files Hi, Google. Would you just look at what I downloaded!

NOT what you downloaded.

but every page. as that service is run for every url. at least it was on aurora.

also, expect network pre-fetch links soon since google also likes that. so they can know what you visited even if you don't click it.

Re: Firefox 31.0

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Avshalom wrote: post #98
magicalist wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might be "hiding" the setting by not including it in the main settings page, but there is no other (mainstream) browser with anything close to the equivalent of the flexibility of about:config.

Though judging by the logic espoused in the tab-close-button bug step one is to move it to about:config and then step two is removing it all together for not being discoverable enough.

Well that's a GUI thing, so it's still available via CSS. Annoying to get to, but configurable.

Re: Firefox 31.0

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Post by ndesaulniers »

tieTYT wrote: post #105
makmanalp wrote: post #39

Firefox's developer tools are really becoming great. "Copy as CURL" for the network tab was something in chrome that I really missed. Box model view which was super handy is now editable. Console showing stack traces along errors was long due. New Canvas debugger, eyedropper are very handy. Font viewer, responsive design tools, the 3d view (very handy in debugging silly box model issues) and highlight painted area mo…

Yeah it's pretty good, but it still has issues. My game uses a manifest.cache and the console/networking tab does not give good feedback with it. In chrome, the console will tell me, "This file could not be found". In Firefox, it gives me no feedback that was a problem... things just don't work as expected. Also, I'm pretty convinced the dev tools have some sort of memory leak in them. Every 3-5 days I have to restar…

The FF Dev Tools team has been pretty active checking uservoice: https://ffdevtools.uservoice.com/forums/246087-firefox-devel...

You might want to leave feedback there.

Re: Firefox 31.0

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Post by Dylan16807 »

ahoge wrote: post #82
ElongatedTowel wrote: post #78

They removed browser.tabs.closeButtons. It's now impossible to hide the close buttons without css fiddling. I don't get it. What benefit is there to removing that feature? Same with clearing the download list. They removed that feature with the last major UI overhaul. The number of tiny addons I have to install just to get features back that have been removed for no reason at all is starting to get too large...

Aw, crap. Do you know the CSS offhand? I already have to use some user CSS because they removed the ability to set the tab min width via `browser.tabs.tabMinWidth`, because that property wasn't "worth it" according to one developer. Edit: Turns out Classic Theme Restorer has an option for that.

>tab min width

That is a nightmare to set now if you want tabs to go below about 40 pixels, thanks to the Australis swoops. It used to be one line of CSS to set min width to 0-ish, now I have a giant blob of custom CSS on top of Classic Theme Restorer.

Re: Firefox 31.0

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Post by dblohm7 »

Pacabel wrote: post #103
amatera wrote: post #18

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This seams to be a problem with your machine. I also use a macbook air (End 2013) and dont have this problem (or feel any Lag on Tab-Actions). Even on my old Ubuntu-rig it doesnt have this problem. Either in Firefox or Chrome.

Your response is the kind that has given the Firefox community a rather bad reputation when it comes to addressing problems reported by users. Instead of accepting that Firefox may indeed have performance problem, you immediately discount this possibility, instead blaming it on mr_november's computer. It's irrelevant that it isn't happening on your laptop that's over 2 years newer than his is. It's irrelevant that it…

I work on the desktop performance team and my job is to address performance issues. It is mistaken to suggest that we don't care about performance and responsiveness.

Re: Firefox 31.0

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Post by thristian »

mr_november wrote: post #10

I want to use Firefox (OS X), and with almost every release I give it a go but it's simply too slow in comparison to Chrome. I'm talking about actions you do multiple times an hour - opening a new tab, closing a tab, rearranging tabs etc. This is with no extensions in use, on a mid-2011 fully specced out macbook air. It's unfortunate but the lag is clear and I can't use it as my primary when I know a better solution…

Have you tried going to the special "about:support" URL and clicking the "Reset Firefox" button at the top right? This creates a new profile and imports all your existing bookmarks, history, saved passwords, etc. but resets preferences back to defaults and recreates all the databases from scratch. If there's any settings from old version of Firefox that are confusing the new version, or poorly-laid-out database files that can't be efficiently updated, this should clean them up.

Re: Firefox 31.0

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Post by im3w1l »

Istof wrote: post #67
fooqux wrote: post #17

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I'm also a bit worried about the privacy implications of this. Especially given that the feature is hidden, and the only two ways to turn it off involve going into about:config, which most people don't even know exists. I wouldn't even know it was doing this if I hadn't read the changelog. Reading the changelog, it also mentions having local and remote blacklists, but how FF chooses which one to use wasn't clear to m…

It seems like the last few updates of Firefox are each hiding yet one more important setting... I think that is what will finally drive me away from Firefox (I've used it since the beginning even if chrome was much faster for a while) ... time to browser shop.

Which settings are needed to make firefox preserve my privacy (if there are more things )?
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