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Re: The Story Behind the Worst Movie on IMDb

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Post by waylandsmithers »

bowlofpetunias wrote: post #59

IMDB ratings are bull. Lots of great movies, often even classics, rate around 6 on IMDB because the general public considers them "boring". The only movies that escape from the IMDB average are a) decent movies that are loved by the masses, b) great movies the masses don't watch (being in black and white or not in English alone pretty much guarantees 2 bonus points) and c) movies everyone agrees on are total crap.

I agree and usually go to rotten tomatoes instead. One need look no further than the Lord of the Rings movies at 9, 11, and 17 to get a sense of the crowd doing most of the voting on IMDB. Sure, they were good, but all three in the top twenty movies ever? Come on.

Re: The Story Behind the Worst Movie on IMDb

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Post by thetrb »

I don't understand this part: "91 percent of all reviewers gave it one star. The next lowest-rated movie on IMDb — 1.8 stars overall — has a more even distribution of ratings, with only 71 percent of reviewers giving it one star. The evidence suggests the push to down-vote “Gunday” was successful".

To me that's just stating the obvious. Of course if there is such a thing as a worst movie then it will have a higher percentage of 1 star votes than other movies. So I don't know how that's evidence for anything except that the movie seems to be bad.

Re: The Story Behind the Worst Movie on IMDb

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Post by sp332 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #110
ulisesrmzroche wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Penalize the avant-garde? Madness. Also, saying that they did not contribute to cinema is like huh?

To some extent, the market already penalizes avant-garde art created for its own sake. I'm just not sure how critics should respond. If the critics bubble effusively about how great Blue and 4'33 are, what exactly are we supposed to do with that criticism, as either artists or patrons? To me, works like these are symptoms of art forms that are well on their way to exhausting their own possibilities. What next? Green…

4'33 was like an MVP. (It wasn't exactly the first of its kind.) Artists had dealt with room noise before, but usually as a distraction instead of realizing that it's part of the experience of a piece.

As an artist, you could be more aware of the room noise as part of the performance of your work instead of getting in the way of it. As a patron, you could consciously choose a place that has noise to enhance your experience of a work.

Re: The Story Behind the Worst Movie on IMDb

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Post by pawn »

dubfan wrote: post #94

The opposite effect, a bad movie being rated highly, also occurs. One example of this is with the film "The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure" ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1520498 ). This film was panned by critics on release and was a complete flop at the box office. Its IMDB rating languished until sometime last year when it began to rise. Around the same time, a bunch of poorly-worded unequivocally positive…

It could be the same sorts of people that write raving reviews for the 3 wolf moon shirt on Amazon.

Re: The Story Behind the Worst Movie on IMDb

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Post by kchoudhu »

seabee wrote: post #102
kchoudhu wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is. Given the dynamics of Bangladeshi politics, a life sentence from the current government is actually a jailing until the opposition comes to power and pardons everyone convicted by its predecessor. I'm against capital punishment, but I understand where the protesters are coming from: they want real justice for the atrocities in 1971, and see the death penalty as the only way to obtain lasting closure. Politi…

It seems messier than politics in a democracy of 300MM people or 70MM...

You refer (I assume) to the UK and the US? One invented modern parliamentary democracy, and the other is a global superpower. Both have been at the business of democracy for 200+ years, and have never had to deal with the problem set Bangladesh is facing today.

Snark serves no one well.

Re: The Story Behind the Worst Movie on IMDb

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Post by NAFV_P »

shabble wrote: post #109
NAFV_P wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But you raise an interesting point, in that there should also be a penalty for novel, provocative work that, while perhaps well-executed, rests on principles that can never be used again, so they don't advance the state of the art or otherwise leave us with any enduring influence. Works like Blue and John Cage's 4'33 would fall into that category, I think. I've seen the first ten minutes of Blue, it's actually real…

Whilst I suspect you're taking the piss, I wonder if you could you induce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray_visual_phenomena without receiving a medically serious dose of radiation? Those buzzkills at the FDA have already banned any artistically worthwhile amount of X-rays from CRT televisions though[1] :( [1] http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2013-title21-vol8/xml/CFR-2...

> Whilst I suspect you're taking the piss, I wonder if you could you induce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray_visual_phenomena without receiving a medically serious dose of radiation?

It's a joke, apologies I couldn't resist. Some art forms and certain works of art are genuinely dangerous [0].

Regarding cosmic rays, I thought it was caused my massive particles, and being able to produce them artificially would be a considerable scientific feat - its artistic relevance would pale in comparison.

> Those buzzkills at the FDA have already banned any artistically worthwhile amount of X-rays from CRT televisions though[1] :(

An old chemistry teacher of mine used to use an old TV screen as a cover for potassium+water reactions, it was about an inch in thickness.

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Serra

Re: The Story Behind the Worst Movie on IMDb

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Post by johnward »

pawn wrote: post #114
dubfan wrote: post #94

The opposite effect, a bad movie being rated highly, also occurs. One example of this is with the film "The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure" ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1520498 ). This film was panned by critics on release and was a complete flop at the box office. Its IMDB rating languished until sometime last year when it began to rise. Around the same time, a bunch of poorly-worded unequivocally positive…

It could be the same sorts of people that write raving reviews for the 3 wolf moon shirt on Amazon.

so 4chan?

Re: The Story Behind the Worst Movie on IMDb

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Post by BrandonMarc »

dubfan wrote: post #94

The opposite effect, a bad movie being rated highly, also occurs. One example of this is with the film "The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure" ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1520498 ). This film was panned by critics on release and was a complete flop at the box office. Its IMDB rating languished until sometime last year when it began to rise. Around the same time, a bunch of poorly-worded unequivocally positive…

I suspect it's someone testing out their automated review-submission software ... try it on something so obscure it won't get noticed for awhile if at all.

Re: The Story Behind the Worst Movie on IMDb

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #110
ulisesrmzroche wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Penalize the avant-garde? Madness. Also, saying that they did not contribute to cinema is like huh?

To some extent, the market already penalizes avant-garde art created for its own sake. I'm just not sure how critics should respond. If the critics bubble effusively about how great Blue and 4'33 are, what exactly are we supposed to do with that criticism, as either artists or patrons? To me, works like these are symptoms of art forms that are well on their way to exhausting their own possibilities. What next? Green…

Last time someone created a "work" inspired by 4'33", John Cage's publisher demanded royalties. http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-laws... So it may be difficult to build on those ideas even if someone did figure out an interesting way to do so.
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