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Poll: The new HN comment system – agree, disagree, or wait and see?

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Re: Poll: The new HN comment system – agree, disagree, or wait and see?

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Post by dmoo »

derefr wrote: post #37
rkuykendall-com wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people might be worried that, if it's a bad change, it won't be reverted because nobody will be able to read their complaints. This is one of the few cases where the worse a change is, the less of a voice you will have after it happens. I'm not saying it will be bad, but you can see why that would be frightening.

The "karma elite" will be able to read their complaints. Usefully, the people with the ability to revert the change are a strict subset of the karma elite.

Is there any information on how spread out geographically the "karma elite" is. If it's very US centric then users in other time zones may suffer most in terms of pending delays.

Re: Poll: The new HN comment system – agree, disagree, or wait and see?

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Post by e15ctr0n »

shapeshed wrote: post #103

Why prioritise this over an API for HN? 2014 and we are still screen scraping.

I believe an API already exists[1] and a number of people have already built some cool apps[2] on top of it.

[1] https://hn.algolia.io/api

[2] https://hn.algolia.io/cool_apps

Re: Poll: The new HN comment system – agree, disagree, or wait and see?

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Post by Gormo »

panacea wrote: post #109
brudgers wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is like EMACS not WordPad. It has a learning curve.To some extent, HN is unwelcoming to new comers by design. It filters out people who want to behave to the same standards as the rest of the internet. To put it in perspective, your post would several standard deviations above the mean both in length and content on most sites. Would have written so thoughtfully and carefully a year ago?

Having a $5 sign-up fee would be better than 'pending comments', IMHO.

MetaFilter does that, and doesn't seem to have problems with quality of discourse. Of course, HN as it stands doesn't seem to have significant problems with quality of discourse, either, so I'm not sure that HN needs either solution; discussion here is already far superior to what you find on the vast majority of sites.

Re: Poll: The new HN comment system – agree, disagree, or wait and see?

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Post by chetanahuja »

I have pretty high (but < 1000) karma. Even so, this sort of move smacks of consolidation of power into the existing high status group. Another way to look at this is that this is a classic "next-step" for an established player in the market and the market of course is ripe for ... ugh... disruption.

Re: Poll: The new HN comment system – agree, disagree, or wait and see?

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Post by geuis »

I do not think this is a good idea. I've already looked through the list of noobcomments and without any context, I have no interest in looking to see if they are relevant or not.

The issue with the current model is that all I see is a list of green comments. What articles are they related to, what other discussions are they replying to?

Realize my comments come from the perspective of someone with 8600+ karma. I won't be silenced by this, but most people that come afterwords will be.

Its a bad, bad idea.

Re: Poll: The new HN comment system – agree, disagree, or wait and see?

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Post by OWaz »

panacea wrote: post #109
brudgers wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is like EMACS not WordPad. It has a learning curve.To some extent, HN is unwelcoming to new comers by design. It filters out people who want to behave to the same standards as the rest of the internet. To put it in perspective, your post would several standard deviations above the mean both in length and content on most sites. Would have written so thoughtfully and carefully a year ago?

Having a $5 sign-up fee would be better than 'pending comments', IMHO.

The $5 sign-up-fee isn't as cheap as it would seem in developing countries.

Re: Poll: The new HN comment system – agree, disagree, or wait and see?

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Post by praxeologist »

ronnier wrote: post #83

I'm afraid that comments that don't jive with the HN world view will never be endorsed. It's a good way to keep the opposition shut up! Hopefully I'm misunderstanding how it works.

That is what I think. Probably at least half of my posts are advocating libertarian anarchy, revisionist history and non-mainstream economics, so I feel like I am going to be censored. Just as a user, if I had 1000 karma I feel like I would be too lazy to go down a whole thread and evaluate the worthiness of each post and approve it too. I'll wait and see but it seems like it will be a failure.

Re: Poll: The new HN comment system – agree, disagree, or wait and see?

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Post by markwillis82 »

I only have 50 karma, however I have been here for quite some time. I don't normally comment but now that all my comments will be pending it makes my comments on new stories less likely to appear.

Unless they get more coverage and land on the front page.

Shame :(

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