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Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Post by guard-of-terra »

eps wrote: post #92
casualmuscovite wrote: post #85

Reporting from the trenches. Here in Moscow all 4 sites from the list [1] are being banned as of this morning. * ej.ru (assortment of articles by opposition writers) * kasparov.ru (chess grandmaster and one of the opposition leaders) * navalny.livejournal.com (possibly most prominent opposition leader as of late; mayor of Moscow candidate in 2013 mayoral election) * grani.ru (opposition newspaper) I'd have to agree w…

Isn't Navalni widely considered/painted as a paid US shill in Russia? I've seen him on TV and he didn't strike me as someone who'd put his life on a line for betterment of Russian governance, just in principle. His true motives are far from clear.

If you have an opposition leader in a country where opposition is a dirty word, why would you care how he is painted by state-affiliated media?

They're like clock with no mechanism. Such clock can even occasionally be right, but it doesn't go.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Post by cema »

1gor wrote: post #102

Did EFF complain about Ukraine government outlawing access to any Russian language news a few days ago? Correction : Above sentence is not correct. Not all Russian language news were outlawed. Instead, only Russian TV channels were banned in Ukraine a few days ago. This has caused OSCE to express concern. See the link below. Almost a half of Ukrainians speak Russian language. New Kiev government has banned national b…

  Did EFF complain about Ukraine government outlawing access 
  to any Russian language news a few days ago?
Did it really happen?

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Post by guard-of-terra »

motbob wrote: post #34

EFF's title conjures up images of sites like CNN and Reuters being blocked. A better title might be "Russia Blocks Access to Major Opposition News Sites."

Why would CNN and Reuters matter much in non-English-speaking country? Not many people go there.

Russia has no opposition (in the meaning of the world) so your title won't make sense.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Post by yatsyk »

1gor wrote: post #102

Did EFF complain about Ukraine government outlawing access to any Russian language news a few days ago? Correction : Above sentence is not correct. Not all Russian language news were outlawed. Instead, only Russian TV channels were banned in Ukraine a few days ago. This has caused OSCE to express concern. See the link below. Almost a half of Ukrainians speak Russian language. New Kiev government has banned national b…

> Ukraine government outlawing access to any Russian language news a few days ago

Filter content by Content-language header? :)

> New Kiev government has banned national broadcasts in this language

This statement is also wrong. There is a lot of channels in Russian language in Ukraine.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Post by go13 »

adobriyan wrote: post #96
eps wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Navalni widely considered/painted as a paid US shill in Russia? I've seen him on TV and he didn't strike me as someone who'd put his life on a line for betterment of Russian governance, just in principle. His true motives are far from clear.

> Isn't Navalni widely considered/painted as a paid US shill in Russia? He is. Just as Echo and the rest of our liberal fifth column.

Small part of Russia wants to live in a free liberal society but major part says we want to live in a gang-totalitarian terrarium headed by the KGB agent.

Those who have courage to protest on the Bolotnaya square say we want to have free media and have a right to protest but zombied people say we want to be slaves.

Zombied slaves don't want to have alternative media and don't want to think because Putin's propaganda does this for them.

These guys consider all countries around to be their enemies who want to destroy Russia. Why? Because all criticism which is really worth attention (poverty, HIV, abuse of basic human rights, the president who does his 3rd term, invasion to Georgia, Ukraine etc) they say to be an attempt to damage their declining country.

So guys, it is your choice.

Even if people read Hacker News, Silicon Valley will never come to Russia because innovations can't exist in a prison-styled country where semi-military illegal cossaks scourge young girls without mercy. This means your people will never be rich. Of course except your small elite made its weals selling resources and slavery workforce.

And FYI Wiki definition of Liberalism:

Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality. Liberals [...] generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Post by 1gor »

yatsyk wrote: post #114
1gor wrote: post #102

Did EFF complain about Ukraine government outlawing access to any Russian language news a few days ago? Correction : Above sentence is not correct. Not all Russian language news were outlawed. Instead, only Russian TV channels were banned in Ukraine a few days ago. This has caused OSCE to express concern. See the link below. Almost a half of Ukrainians speak Russian language. New Kiev government has banned national b…

> Ukraine government outlawing access to any Russian language news a few days ago Filter content by Content-language header? :) > New Kiev government has banned national broadcasts in this language This statement is also wrong. There is a lot of channels in Russian language in Ukraine.

I corrected my remark above. They did not ban all Russian language channels, only some of them.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Post by 1gor »

cema wrote: post #112
1gor wrote: post #102

Did EFF complain about Ukraine government outlawing access to any Russian language news a few days ago? Correction : Above sentence is not correct. Not all Russian language news were outlawed. Instead, only Russian TV channels were banned in Ukraine a few days ago. This has caused OSCE to express concern. See the link below. Almost a half of Ukrainians speak Russian language. New Kiev government has banned national b…

Did EFF complain about Ukraine government outlawing access to any Russian language news a few days ago? Did it really happen?

I've corrected my comment. Not all Russian language news were banned.

Still, it seems Ukrainian government is also trying to censor some news sources.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Post by kmcmcmd »

1gor wrote: post #117
cema wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did EFF complain about Ukraine government outlawing access to any Russian language news a few days ago? Did it really happen?

I've corrected my comment. Not all Russian language news were banned. Still, it seems Ukrainian government is also trying to censor some news sources.

some= russian propaganda stations (russian state controlled and run)- independent stations are running.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Post by trycatch »

eps wrote: post #92
casualmuscovite wrote: post #85

Reporting from the trenches. Here in Moscow all 4 sites from the list [1] are being banned as of this morning. * ej.ru (assortment of articles by opposition writers) * kasparov.ru (chess grandmaster and one of the opposition leaders) * navalny.livejournal.com (possibly most prominent opposition leader as of late; mayor of Moscow candidate in 2013 mayoral election) * grani.ru (opposition newspaper) I'd have to agree w…

Isn't Navalni widely considered/painted as a paid US shill in Russia? I've seen him on TV and he didn't strike me as someone who'd put his life on a line for betterment of Russian governance, just in principle. His true motives are far from clear.

> Isn't Navalni widely considered/painted as a paid US shill in Russia?

Considered -- no, painted -- yes, of course. You can't be an opposition leader, and don't be the target of smear campaign by Kremlin.

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