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Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by driverdan »

ta_tatata wrote: post #78
hhm wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is another reason why downloading software from "somewhere else" is less than ideal in a case like this. The reason is that the pirated download might not be the original software as provided by the developer; there is no guarantee that it doesn't have, for example, some virus in it.

Nice FUD. But one could just scan it with an up-to-date antivirus to be sure. Unless it is some form of government funded virus it will most probably get detected. I have yet to encounter a hard to detect and remove virus coming from a downloaded software from "somewhere else", I'd rather install software coming from the scene than a download portal such as softonic.

It's pretty trivial to create undetectable droppers.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by csmithuk »

ubojan wrote: post #69
bigd wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But for what i remember, neither illustrator or photoshop cs5 alone did fit in that. EDIT: http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog/cs6._sl_id-contentfilt... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362428,00.asp

but you could buy software once and use it for several years, skipping a few versions before upgrade. There are lots of users that don't need latest bells and whistles.

This. I used Fireworks MX (released 2002) until 2 years ago

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by kalleboo »

damon_c wrote: post #91
dasil003 wrote: post #17

I was hoping this would be about how annoying the pricing is for Creative Cloud. If I was a designer then I could justify paying that kind of monthly tariff, but as primarily a developer who needs infrequent access to Photoshop or Illustrator the pricing options are just highway robbery. At least in the old days I could pay up front and stretch it out over time to get my money's worth by deciding when and if to upgra…

I had this problem. Pixelmator and Acorn for Mac are not perfect replacements but after awhile you figure out what they do well and you start to not miss Adobe products. also iDraw... all of them together are trivial in cost compared to anything Adobe.

As a developer, I have to be able to open our designer's PSDs to extract elements. He's always using the latest features as well so I have to keep up with the new versions...

There are no alternatives that have even half-way decent PSD support (through no fault of their own, of course).

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by kalleboo »

vacri wrote: post #102
te_chris wrote: post #34

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Installing office is kids stuff, all 9 DVDs of native instrument's komplete 9 (not even the ultimate version which has like another 100 gigs of samples included) took 2 days using another laptop's drive over wifi.

A cat5 cable really isn't that expensive. I don't understand the distaste people have regarding wired networking. In my office, I have several people who complain about the wifi having congestion. In the heart of the CBD, with tons of other networks visible. "That network cable on your desk, which I put there for you to use, plug it in and this problem goes away". They plug it in, comment on how quick and clean their…

A lot of laptops that don't have an optical drive also don't have built-in ethernet (Retina MacBooks). The Thunderbolt adapter is an option, but it's not cheap.

I agree that when wired networking is available, it is a far superior option. Streaming local video to Apple TV is nearly impossible without it.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by shittyanalogy »

There's no such thing as "pirating". "Pirating" is just a buzz word that some use as a ignorant epithet and others hold as a badge of honor.

The question is, "Am I breaking copyright law by downloading this software?"

Here's a flow chart so you can check for yourself:

    Did you purchase said software?
      a) Yes
         -> Then you are not breaking copyright law.

      b) No
         -> Then you are breaking copyright law.
Distributing the copyrighted material, as many torrent clients do for you automatically, is another matter altogether.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by rosser »

csomar wrote: post #67
samstave wrote: post #46

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The way this brief interaction is constructed would lead one to surmise that the SOFTWARE is not what is protected/IP/sold to you... it is the LICENSE key. Thus, downloading software should never be an offence. He paid for the serial, not the software..

Or more precisely, he paid for the license. He can use the serial in multiple computers, but that'd be illegal too.

Actually, IIRC, Adobe's EULA says you can install the software on multiple (up to 2) computers, but only use it on one at any given time.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by steele »

DominikR wrote: post #62
crististm wrote: post #44

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The starting point is where you say to yourself to do it "the right way". It turns out that you had a blind spot and your solution was far from being right or optimal. Time for a reality check. In this case "pirating" was a viable solution but the quest for a binary changed into one about "rightfulness". Reality check: "what are you trying to achieve?".

Of course I agree that it would be better for customers to have the binary available on Adobes servers. What is annoying to me is that this is so obvious and trivial to everybody here on HN, yet this developer feels it is important to declare to the world that he is going to pirate Adobe software from now on because of his "shocking" experience with Adobes customer support. In the end it might even be that the softwa…

I agree on the last point, this complaint is so casual and frequently expressed. What is the issue? That they are paid less and the service would be better otherwise? The adobe CEO is Indian too. Fact is that when I work with international teams, the English of Indian team members have been a breath of fresh air compared to ESL European counterparts. This call center first world problem trope is tired. Would love to see folks deal with call center operators from areas of the UK with more abstract manifestations of English.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by csense »

krapp wrote: post #98
tlow wrote: post #84

If you truly care, develop a free alternative that is just as good as their products. See RMS.

Problem is, the open source community apparently decided Gimp and Inkscape were probably good enough, and few people who've ever used Adobe software would likely agree. Never mind that employers probably won't have them installed, and probably won't allow them to be used in house, they won't care if Gimp and Inkscape are on your resume if they're looking specifically to hire for photoshop/illustrator experience, and…

I'll grant you that Gimp's user interface is kind of a mess, but what specifically is wrong with Inkscape?

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by [deleted] »

sosborn wrote: post #59
grimtrigger wrote: post #56

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I think a lot of time is wasted on perfecting spelling/grammar because of comments like the one above. Are you having difficulty understanding Scott's message or intent?

>I think a lot of time is wasted on perfecting spelling/grammar Are you sure about that? Scour any comments section for 10 minutes and it should be clear that not enough time is being used to perfect spelling/grammar. >Are you having difficulty understanding Scott's message or intent? No, but that doesn't mean we should settle for the lowest common denominator.

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